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Awesome name.]]>Jun 3rd 2008 10:13AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/Porsche is the comapny that made dual clutch trannys working, unfortunatily they never equiped street vehicles with it.
Every dual clutch system of today (VW, Audi, Nissan, Mitsubishi, BMW, Volvo etc.) is based on the Porsche development.

PDK was successfully used by Porsche in racing ..and by Audi in the WRC Group B Audi S1 Evo 2 were the PDK allowed the S1 rocket starts in 2.6s 0-62mph.

Porsche´s financiel trouble in the 1980´s and 1990´s stoped them to market PDK 20years earlyer.. the risk was to high to fail.. ]]>Jun 3rd 2008 1:43PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/Jun 3rd 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/Jun 3rd 2008 10:21AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
THAT would be a fantastic car.

The 911 GT3 is stellar as-is, do not get me wrong... but imagine a mid-engine layout instead of longer, heavier, and rear-pendulum engined...]]>Jun 3rd 2008 10:42AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
Yes, the 911 is an iconic car and platform, but maybe there just isn't enough to be gotten out of it, look at what Nissan's done with a clean slate, and what Audi's done with a clean slate.

Porsche, time to move on]]>Jun 3rd 2008 11:27AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
I think they should let the 911 soldier on as the 2+2. I'd love to see them go with the mid-engined chassis as the 2-seat sports car, both above and below the 911's price points, basically by applying the performance equipment that they have to the cayman's chassis, and perhaps updating the bodywork on the top-end models, kind of half-way between where the Cayman is now, and the Carrera GT used to be.

If they modify the rear half of the mid-engined chassis, perhaps they could even fit their V8 engines in it, as well as the boxer 6s.

A 911 turbo engine in a Cayman is interesting... but hot-running. not exactly a lot of cooling space under there, and it isn't exactly right inside the rear bumper cover, it is really underneath the middle of the car.

Personally, a naturally-aspirated 450hp flat six seems like a fantastic option.

I love turbos, but there is something to be said for the throttle response and purity of a naturally aspirated engine that revs freely, and 450hp is A LOT.

In a mid-engined handling chassis that is relatively light weight, and purpose built to be a sports car... seems sublime.

I am sure the 911 GT3 is sublime, as well, but the Cayman chassis seems like the more optimized by design. No extra length for rear seats (even if the seats themselves are gone, the space and weight of more bodywork is still there.) no extra rear weight bias or inertia effects, or overhang for a rear-engine configuration.

Porsche has a gem in the cayman's chassis, IMHO, it is unfortunate that they refuse to let it parallel the 911's engine options.]]>Jun 3rd 2008 1:04PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
FTW!]]>Jun 3rd 2008 12:11PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
Source:
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=126453]]>Jun 3rd 2008 2:24PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/Jun 3rd 2008 2:59PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
If the driver learned to drive a coddling electronic nannied car... he may not have the skill to truly drive a purer car.

I am not saying that I do, mind you...

But if someone can drive without electronic nannies, then are the nannies really needed?

Traction control, stability control being the two big ones. ABS can be somewhat included if we are talking about the track, but ABS is helpful on the street.

But I don't count actual drivetrain tech, like AWD. AWD is an advantage even when someone is IN control of the car, not just a "save your bacon" option when you get out of control.

I don't go so far to say that electronic systems are invalid. Most people aren't fantastic drivers, perhaps even me, although I take it seriously.

But a fantastic driver that can drive without stability systems can drive a car with them. The reverse is not necessarily true. Someone who relies on stability control to save their bacon has no such safety net without it.

But a well designed, pure vehicle should be eminently driveable by a serious driver up to it's design limits, without requiring stability programs, selective braking, or engine throttle cutoff superceding driver input.

There is something to be said for having to hone your skill to keep yourself out of trouble, rather than relying on the computer to do it for you.]]>Jun 3rd 2008 3:12PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/Jun 3rd 2008 5:52PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/06/03/spy-shots-450-hp-porsche-gt3-rs-caught-running-ring/
Great comments. It's unfortunate that advancing auto technology is essentially there to account for increasing public stupidity/lack-of-driving-skill. However, the electronic nannies are nice, even for the skilled folk who just want to go from A to B once in a while. It's too bad not everyone is coming from the skilled-side of things......our roads would be much safer.]]>Jun 4th 2008 2:58PM