• May 28th 2008 at 8:01AM
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Inside Line is reporting that the new, RWD coupe being developed by Subaru and Toyota will only be sold as a Subaru in markets outside of Japan, while the Toyota version will remain exclusive to the Land of the Rising Sun. The report goes on to say that the coupe will be based off the Subaru Impreza (despite Toyota/Subaru's own press release saying that it's an "all-new" platform) and that power will be provided by a naturally aspirated, 2.0-liter boxer engine producing 220 hp at 6,500 rpm.

Toyota and Subaru are using the Integra Type-R as the performance benchmark for the new coupe, with a 103-inch wheelbase, a 2+2 seating layout and a curb weight of 2,866 pounds. As reported before, the coupe will debut in 2011 and pricing is expected to begin just south of $20,000.

[Source: Inside Line]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      HELL YEAH!

      2011 HELL NO!

      • 7 Years Ago
      Seems that Toyota & Subaru are missing the point on this. Why not AWD and turbo in Subaru (?Impreza Coupe?), and RWD and NA high RPM engine in Toyota models, both sold worldwide? This way Subaru doesn't dilute their all AWD model range and Toyota gets a small, fun, RWD coupe in their lineup.
      • 7 Years Ago
      ill start saving my penny
      • 7 Years Ago
      I can think of several cars off the top of my head that have options available for larger/turbo'd engines and or all wheel drive. Given that this platform is based off the impreza and not the corrola, i would venture to guess that a future turbo or all wheel drive option is possible.

      Granted, those option will take this car north of the 20K mark. But to expect a car to have turbo and all wheel drive and come in under 20K is ridiculous.
      • 7 Years Ago
      p.s. Toyota is now family cars, Subaru is AWD practicallity with some performance, Scion though....Why couldnt this be a scion? They want a performance car and would love to hit the "drifter jdm dude" demographic.

      The one thing thats gonna suck about these you will have to buy one brand new otherwise it will be ruined by ricers.

      s2000's almost always need headwork after dildos mis shifts

      Honda SI are always riced out to death

      WRX/STI/EVO means trouble finding one stock and with a clutch you can trust.

      Buy this new or inherit peoples major stupidity
      • 7 Years Ago
      Start saving your lunch money kids...

      AWD or RWD makes no difference to me, the world has not seen a Subaru coupe' in nearly a decade...that's what matters here!

      ..Now just revive the RS...
      • 7 Years Ago
      Why are you so hooked up on turbos? A 2L boxer with 220 hp, that's is very cool. Lighter than the RX8. The RX8 gets to 100km/h in about 6 secs, this will probably be just under that. In that price range it will be unbelievably worth its money.

      Looks very good as well. Hopefully it will look something like that when it's launched.

      Come on people, this is an exciting car!
        • 7 Years Ago
        I really don't see how turbos offer better fuel efficiency off boost. Turbo engines have to run a much lower static compression ratio than NA engines because the turbo raises the cylinder pressures when you are on boost. Low compression ratio means it's not especially mechanically efficient. My buddy has an Evo. 2.0 liter turbo. 300hp. He is lucky to get 18 mpg out of a tank of gas. Meanwhile, I get about 24 to 26 out of a tank on my 300 hp 5.7 liter NA Corvette. A large displacement, high compression NA engine with sky high gearing seems to be a much better option for efficiency under normal operating conditions.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Why hooked on turbos?

        More power
        Better fuel efficiency (when you aren't using the more power!)
        More opportunities for tuning.
        Minimal increased cost when part of manufacturing process.

        It is a neat car, but they are selling themselves short by not making it turbo. Its "good enough" but it has the opportunity to be great, so the lack of follow through is disappointing.
      • 7 Years Ago
      no turbo...NO SALE!!!
        • 7 Years Ago
        you have an automatic, thats why you have lag.

        the manual offers greater control over rpms and offers a direct connection between wheels and engine, reducing lag.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I prefer NA engines when driving stick - the power comes in so much smoother. Now, this is a bit different with some of the newer turbo'd engines like the BMW 3.0l, but Subaru's boxers are known for their turbo lag. I know - I have a Legacy GT and you have to wait for that power to hit. In an automatic, that's fine, since you also wind up staying on the boost between gears.

        So I guess if you want an auto, this will be the car for you, then?
      • 7 Years Ago
      I am so confused from all this. I thought that this was supposed to be the AE86 coupe mentioned back in August 07, but what's the bloody point if they only have it badged in Japan?! I thought I would finally see something exciting in the Toyota brand again, this is such a huge letdown. Now I'm still stuck between a tC (glorified civic, not available in CA), an IS-F or an LF-A (both overpriced Lexus -_-)...

      Please someone tell me this isn't the AE86 coupe and I still can hope for a possible NA release of it.
        • 7 Years Ago
        They are mechanically identical... if it bothers you that much you can waste your money on a conversion.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Is it so much to ask for the Toyota version, that's supposed to be the successor to the AE86, and now is only being released in Japan. Not everyone is a Soob fan, FYI. I was starting to warm to their quirky design, up until they totally bagged on it and came up with their latest vanilla Impreza. They'll probably carry over that garbage grill design for the Soob version.

        Oh, and yes, I can't get the tC, nor would I even want one. I'm just depressed at the sheer LACK of anything sporty being offered by Toyota Co., except overpriced Lexus offerings. Scion's supposed to be their 'youth' devision, but there's nothing I find appealing with the brand at all. Trust me, I've tried. At this rate, I'll just get myself a Genesis Coupe and call it a day. No one else have anything remotely as appealing, despite their past efforts proving they could if they wanted to.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You'll pass on this because its not a Toyota but would then be willing to drive a squishy old FWD Scion econocar with zero performance factor?

        You must be from Canada...
      • 7 Years Ago
      Nothing really good can come out of a car that has "the integra" as a benchmark....
      • 7 Years Ago
      Calling it a Subaru and not a Toyota is stupid. Toyota hasn't had anything resembling an affordable sports car since they killed the Celica and MR2 (the tC is not a sports car. The IS-F is definitely sporty, but is too high priced to be available to most people). And Subaru's thing is AWD. So why would you want to destroy the Subaru reputation of AWD and keep up the reputation of Toyota appliance-mobiles?
      • 7 Years Ago
      the benchmark is an Integra Type-R? WTF? The ITR wasn't a bad car, but that was/will be a 10 yo benchmark by the time this thing comes out.

      I smell epic FAIL.
        • 7 Years Ago
        The Integra Type-R finished it's run in America in 2001, but continued on in Japan up until recently. It is a Type-R version of our Acura RSX. 220 hp (our type-s had 200 hp). Similar to the current Civic Type-R (in Japan). This Toyotaru (or Subota?) should be comparable in weight, power, and price but will have the advantage of RWD. May even give the S2K a run for it's money.
        • 7 Years Ago
        By "Integra" they probably mean RSX, which continued under the Integra name in other markets. The last-gen Integra Type-R was (and still is) an amazing car; sort of our RSX Type-S, but turned up to 11.

        I'd always hoped/wished/dreamed that Honda would sell the European Civic Type-R as the new RSX. No such luck, sadly.
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