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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[and to think, the FIA is pushing for cost cutting at the same time!  Let's freeze engine development for 5 years to cut costs but by the way were taking away tire warmers and giving you this.  You suck Bernie!!!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[whatWHAT]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 3:52PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[Bernie sucks, but the FIA is run by SS Oberfuhrer Max Mosley. He's the one who's so anal about costs, yet continually introducing new regulations that costs $$ for the teams to implement.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 7:34PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[Awesome.  I just wonder about the inertial side effect of a spinning gyroscope in a car.  The vehicles probably won't be as eager to change directions.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Steven]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:02PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually, if spinning in the right direction, I would think that this could have a mild stabilizing effect. I doubt that these small flywheels would really make a huge difference, though.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bungle]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:07PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[I agree that the gyroscope will add stability, but from the vantage of a driver, it will feel quite destabilizing because his own inputs will not correspond to the motions of the car.  And if it is an 80hp flywheel, then there is plenty of energy in there to influence the car.<br><br>I'm not disagreeing, but just playing devils advocate for the sake of discussion]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zoiks]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[guys, that is exactally his point. it will add stability, which is bad. watch an f1 race and look how quickly the cars have to change direction.<br><br>they go to a lot of trouble to minimize the amount of traction it takes to turn the cars, they have to be twitchy to get around corners at those speeds.<br><br>the gyroscopic effect created by the tires and powertrain are already very significant and more will be something the engineers have to keep in mind with the new cars.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[naggs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[i think, based on the orientation, it should provide no more instability than say a large turbo<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[havoc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:20PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[The resultant torque from a flywheel is the cross product (perpendicular to) the angular momentum vector (axis on which the flywheel spins) and the applied torque (axis about which the car is turning - this is essentially up and down).  If you align the two, everything is fine, there won't be noticeable effects from a simplified 2d turn, however going around a banked turn would cause the car to dive or lift (depending on the direction of the flywheel or the direction of the body roll).  Fortunately, you generally have pretty minimal roll angles and they're usually not applied quickly.  Aligning the flywheel in a different direction would cause severe pitching or rolling moments to be applied to the car when going around a turn - not a good thing.  <br><br>Also, I hate to think of the safety issues associated with a car getting into an accident and a 10 pound flywheel spinning at 65,000 rpm suddenly being exposed to the atmosphere, debris and the people involved.  I'm sure these specs would be different for a commercially available vehicle, but the system only works if the flywheel is storing a large amount of energy.  Vacuums are also difficult to maintain, and materials behave strangely in them (outgassing is a major problem, and aerospace grade materials that would be necessary for lubricating bearings, etc.. are very expensive).  <br><br>It sounds like it might be a promising idea, but there are certainly a lot of challenges involved. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[nataku83]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[Couldn't it be counteracted by an opposite rotating twin?  It would work just like a counter-rotating prop or helicopter rotor.  Of course that would increase complexity and likely double the failure rate.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[thesawzall]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:46PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[More than likely these flywheels are not monolithic.  They are usually wound carbon fiber and some sort of epoxy.  They don't fail explosively they kinda unravel and turn into a pile of hot fluff.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[KDM]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 9th 2008 12:47AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[How about if the flywheel (taking the gyro analogy further) could be manipulated along with the steering wheels to actually "enhance" stability through turns/ change direction, rather than "inhibit" stability/ resist change in direction? It seems to me that this is the perfect example of turning lemons into lemonade... ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 9th 2008 1:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[This is what I love about F1.  It's a race series that develops new technologies that trickle down to the consumer market.  Except in the case of battery hybrids.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Liberatore]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[i have high hopes for flywheel recovery systems.<br><br>this is the only 'hybrid' system that has a hope of actually increasing the performance of a sportscar until dramatic breakthroughs in battery tech arrive.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[naggs]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:14PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[ok, so i was meaning just in general terms, but i can see how it might have influence on the turning of such a light vehicle, but it's forces could also counter balance the gyroscopic natue of the reciprocating engine mass (turn it in opposite direction?)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[havoc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[a w e s o m e]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[pmiddle5]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[t o t @ l l y !]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bungle]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 9th 2008 11:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[50000 5\/\/33t!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[pmiddle5]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 9th 2008 11:34PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[mostly likely it will be a slight noticeable change if one  at all .]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon C]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:40PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[This will be interesting to watch.  It's similar to the system Chrysler tried to develop in their Patriot LMP car 15 years ago.  They never got it to work safely.  Something about keeping the driver alive if the flywheel suffered catastrophic failure.  That was a long time ago and maybe a good idea can finally be worked out.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[71cuda]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 8th 2008 4:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/08/autoline-on-autoblog-with-john-mcelroy/</guid><description><![CDATA[ Urban Rumor in Detroit says testing a system killed an engineer and Chrysler pulled the plug on the project.<br><br> I wish people with stop with the nonsense about flying projectiles, the morons on the road are more dangerous than flywheels moving at 65,000rpm all of a sudden leaving the car, if the accident dis-lodged the thing, chances are you are VERY dead, it wouldn't MATTER!<br><br> ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 13th 2008 8:46AM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>