http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/ Autoblog Comments for Showdown between Arnie and the Automakers set for Thursday http://www.autoblog.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.autoblog.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
http://www.reliableplant.com/article.asp?pagetitle=General%20Motors'%20total%20sales%20for%20April%20down%20sharply&articleid=11726]]>May 6th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:26PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:36PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:39PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
It would be better served if you put it in the "GM lost XX amount in the first quarter" thread.]]>May 6th 2008 2:39PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:42PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:53PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 3:53PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
I think it was a good thing you posted that for those who would be interested. All I was saying is that you may reach more of the people who would be interested in the information by posting it on a related topic.]]>May 6th 2008 4:54PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
No, the automakers should simply build to satisfy California's (and 16 other states') standards. There's no reason to build two types. Pick the most stringent and build for that market. 1 version. The federal government is limp-wristed.

CA has the right to do this because CARB pre-dates the EPA by many years. CARB did something the feds were too myopic to consider: they tried to deal with air quality.]]>May 6th 2008 2:15PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:28PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
However, I do think that the result of CARB proposals will be a severe restriction on the types of cars available in CA. Manufacturers simply wont be shipping us their SUVs anymore (and the limited ones they do ship will cost ridiculously marked-up prices) and we'll be sing the lion's share of ford focuses and chevy cobalts. So in that way, CA gets what it wants with mileage improvements, carmakers dont really end up changing, and the consumer just gets a whole lot less choices.]]>May 6th 2008 2:35PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
If a competing automaker does build two types, people living in the other 32 states won't buy very many of your Cali-spec clowncars.


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China isn't part of the USA. California's CARB was grandfathered in and allowed to make their own air quality laws, with a rubber-stamp from the feds - a courtesy stamp. Until the Bush admin trampled on states' rights and said, no more freedom to California or any state that legally had a right to follow California's air quality laws.

If not for carb we wouldn't have the catalytic converter or maybe even air pollution laws.]]>May 6th 2008 3:06PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 3:32PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
Anyways, those 17 states are also some of the most populous states, since pollution is a much bigger problem in the more densely lived in states, so even though it's 17 states it makes up a much larger proportion of the US population.]]>May 6th 2008 5:16PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/
They have their games, we have ours.]]>May 6th 2008 2:22PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/showdown-between-arnie-and-the-automakers-set-for-thursday/May 6th 2008 2:41PM