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Jason @ May 1st 2008 2:13PM
"Yeah, with probably thousands of parts in an engine I'm supposed to believe they turn on a robot and product the eco-tec engines. You just lost most of your credibility there. Sorry. Stupid statement."
Have you ever actually built an engine? They're insanely simple.
If you think all of the engines in the world are hand assembled, I don't think you've got a right to be calling anyone stupid.
"Your view is that every American should make the big bucks or they don't count or we shouldn't care about their job?"
That's not what I'd like to see, but that's what's going to happen. Bottom line is that if you have some UAW worker who costs GM $75/hr after benefits, vs some guy in Mexico who costs them $25/hr after benefits, who do you think they're going to go with? I think you should take a trip back in to the 80s and ask GM about that when they started making assembly plants in Mexico.
GM isn't out to "better America" or provide welfare to the American worker... contrary to what most rednecks believe. GM is an enterprise, a business, and they're there to make money, plain and simple. If they can replace 100 workers with a robot that doesn't need to eat, take piss breaks, require health insurance, and take sick days to save money, then they'll do it. If they can save money by sending jobs to Mexico or Canada, then they'll do that too. Go ahead, call me a liar.
You still haven't specified which Apple you're talking about. If you're talking about Apple Computer - first off, I don't use a Mac, and second off, almost all computer parts for any computer manufacturer are made in Asia... so what's your point?
"My guess, since you really seem to care where parts and design are from, is that your Acura has less American design and parts than any given Pontiac."
There you go again... telling me in one reply that it doesn't matter when GM does it because it's a "world market" for them, but lambasing me for driving an Acura, which was engineered and built in Japan.
Difference is, I embrace a world market, but Acura doesn't lie to me and market their cars to me as "American," whereas GM does.
Jason @ May 1st 2008 2:23PM
I'll reply to your comment AZMike, but I'm not sure it'll go in the right place, as the Weblogs comment system is garbage.
First off, I don't care that it's "just a Honda." Honda makes more engines than any other company in the world every single year. They've been doing it for a while, and they're good at it. I've never had reliability issues with any of my Hondas, and I've owned quite a few of them.
That being said, my wife owns a Honda Accord. I'm not "ashamed" to drive it because it's "just a Honda." If they had my TSX as an "Accord Euro" as they do in Australia, and it had a big fat H badge on the front, I'd be more than happy to drive that too.
If you must know, I shaved the "Acura" and "TSX" badges off the back of my TSX, so anyone who's dumb enough to equate "Acura" with anything other than "just a Honda"... they won't know what it is anyway.
I didn't buy the car to impress other people, I bought it because it offered features that I wanted for the amount of money I wanted to spend, and I couldn't find those features in a similarly sized car for a similar amount of money.