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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Odd that GM is loosing money and Ford is making money. For the life of me I couldn't figure out what Ford's plan was, especially with the dull cars they've been putting out, but it seems to be working for them. GM, on the other hand, is making some awesome cars, but can't seem to profit from it. Weird how that works.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul P.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 10:38AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Well, ford doesn't have GMAC which will continue to drag GM into the red as long as the current economic 'it's not a recession cuz we haven't passed the six month period where the board meets and says "we've been in a recession"' ends.<br><br>Also, Ford, smartly, has been selling of marques which aren't a part of their core business, which is allowing them to focus on their core products and inject their numbers with large positive sales of said firms.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zamafir]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 10:49AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Though Ford doesn't have GMAC they (because it's GM) they do have Ford Credit. No home mortgages from Ford Credit, they defer thous out to banks. Smart move.<br><br>How stupid is GM for being anti-diverse! Think about this for a moment. You make cars and trucks. Then you finance homes! Yeah it makes money for a while but when a recession (Now) hits, you're bleeding until the day the recession is over. By that time, the compounding effects of the poor diversification of the company have taken a stronghold and you're up for the highest bidder!<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Randy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 1:11PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[LOSING, not "loosing". Jesus H Christ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tragedy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ Randy<br><br>"How stupid is GM for being anti-diverse! Think about this for a moment. You make cars and trucks. Then you finance homes!"<br><br>A automotive financing company that does home mortgages too? Doesn't that actually make them diverse? It's easy to complain about GMAC dragging them down now. But when the economy and housing market were booming, GMAC was a cash cow for GM. Hence, how they were able to make money by selling off such a large share.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>May 2nd 2008 12:02AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[I've always been more of a Ford fan then a GM fan (Volvo and Saab are the cars I love though) but I've owned some GM's for years.  Real GM's not Matrix's or the like.<br>I really like them.<br>I'd buy another big sloshy slow old fashioned GM again.<br>There's one in my driveway, it's not half bad.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[SPG]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 10:58AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Are you John Neff?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[XJ]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:43AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ford Credit does not do subprime loans, GMAC does.<br>Ford Credit does not do mortgages, GMAC does.<br><br>GM is really smart/lucky to have sold 51% of GMAC when it still had value.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[compy386]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:02AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[A lot of this is due to GM, ahem, not stating losses in previous years due to anticipated profit that never happened.  Accounting regulations didn't allow them to continue doing this; they had to disclose said losses now.<br><br>There's debate as to how good/bad this is :good in that it's a one-time thing, bad in that it means GM was camouflaging how bad things really have been for the past several quarters.  <br><br>GMAC's position is painful, but it's important to note that GMAC's profits had been floating GM through the last decade.  It's not like GMAC has been an albatross for years; they're probably the reason GM is still viable now, and yes, dumping large chunks of them prior to the subprime mortgage crisis was smart.<br><br>GM's operational issues are the problem here; they've been losing money in North America for years and it's only an issue now because they haven't been able to hide it any longer.  Despite decent product (the Malibu, Cadillac, the GMT900s and Lambdas) they still have too many divisions and models, and they still have a lot of mediocre cars that just aren't moving, especially in the economy market.  Ford isn't hurting as badly because Ford seems to understand that they have to have a balanced product mix (Ford is, on the whole, better than average; GM has serious weaknesses) and that it's better to be small and profitable than huge and money-losing.  GM doesn't seem to "get" that it doesn't have 50% of the market anymore, and can't waste resources on flashy crap and needless rebadges.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[psarhjinian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:18AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[RE: "good in that it's a one-time thing"<br><br>It's _ALWAYS_ a one time thing.  There was a one time thing last Q and there'll be a one time thing next Q.  And the Q after that.  And the Q after that.  Etc, etc, etc...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Disgruntled Goat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:21AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Good thing GM gave the execs their high $$$ salaries back last week.  Pay for performance??  Ummm, yeah....<br><br><a href="http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/26/gm-increases-exec-salaries-to-normal-levels/" rel="nofollow">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/26/gm-increases-exec-salaries-to-normal-levels/</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Disgruntled Goat]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:18AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[A) people inside the company almost surely knew these results before upping the execs salaries.  <br><br>B) 1 million = 0.001 Billion.  Even if their pay had gone up $50 million, it would be a $3.2B loss without said raises.  Any difference?  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 12:38PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[I always find this amusing.  Toyota's executives don't make anything even remotely close to what GM (or Ford, or Chrysler) do, yet the reason oft cited for such excessive compensation is the need to attract talent.  Clearly, Toyota doesn't seem to need to pay huge dollars for talent.  <br><br>Perhaps we ought to look at American corporate culture a little bit: from the assembly line up (or is that from boardroom down?), it's all about "me"  Now, as an old leftie, I find it somewhat repugnant to subordinate to the corporatation as the Japanese do, but perhaps a little bit more civic involvement in corporate affairs would encourage not just better fiscal results, but perhaps better corporate behaviour?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[psarhjinian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 1:00PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[It should be noted that profit on vehicle manufacture is calculated when the car is produced and rolls off the line, and not when it's actually sold (this is industry standard). By this merit, the American Axle strike has affected the bottom line quite a bit. GMAC as others have mentioned also has a big part played in this. GM has sold a hell of a lot more cars this past quarter everywhere aside from North America than they did this quarter last year. In North America, it's largely the truck sales affecting this, as car sales have been way up, for instance the CTS selling 55% more than Q1, 2007. So it's not really as bad as it looks, and I'm glad that the stock market reacted to it properly.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[idunno55]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:22AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Gm has great products on paper but i just want to make 2 points. When you purchase a new GM car and add all the options its not worth the price, there are so many better cars out there for that price. <br><br>Next is quality!!! when you drive any GM model at 60k miles it feels like its falling apart, when you drive a german car that has 100k it feels better !! <br><br>oohh and lets not forget in 1991 bmw 850ci had luxury that Gm is putting on their 2008 models lol talk about being behind lol..]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[OMER]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 11:58AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[I sort of agree with the whole not worth the price point...on certain vehicles (think Cobalt). <br><br>Next, things have changed since 1991. Heck, there are options that were on those old Bimmers that even Japanese companies are finally putting into their cars. Here is another example. Toyota announced it was going to put MPG gauges in their vehicles as standard options...this is something Chrysler has been doing for years. GM cars don't fall apart after 60k miles. My 94 Regal has 140k miles on it and still runs like a champ. It has a few squeaks here and there...but what do you expect from a 14 year old vehicle? <br><br>And German vehicles have NEVER been the shining beacon of quality and reliability. Even German car owners know this. <br><br>LOL at your lame comment.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[That One Person]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 5:40PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Funny that the same BMW 850Ci cost $100K in 1991.  Not today's dollars, in 1991 money!  <br><br>The same car today would cost $180-200K I'd guess.  Being that it's similar to the current M-B CL65(big, sporty V-12 coupe GT) which is about that cost currently.<br><br>There's an apples to oranges comparison if I've ever seen one.  GM doesn't even build anything with a V-12 much less a competitor in the V-12 Sport Coupe/GT category.  <br><br>I'd surely hope that a $100K BMW has more luxury than a mainstream GM car.  Otherwise, that wouldn't be a mark on GM, instead, it would be a concern for BMW I'd have to say.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[montoym]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 7:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if GM has paid the VEBA fund for it's workers healthcare? I can't remember when its due but its a one time payment between $30 to $35 billion  and if they haven't paid it this could get worse. <br><br>If they haven't it has to be due within the next quarter or so.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tagg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 12:11PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[thats actually a good point, because Ford did pay a significant portion towards their VEBA and STILL posted the profit. <br>I do not believe GM has yet. <br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[C.W.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 2:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on GM posts $3.25 billion loss in Q1]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/30/gm-posts-3-25-billion-loss-in-q1/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'll be the first to admit that I don't appreciate the intricacies of major-league accounting, but I'm often puzzled and amused by big-time quarterly losses quickly followed by "...but it looks worse than it is" spin.<br><br>I might have been daydreaming in math class, but I'm fairly certain a loss of three-thousand two-hundred and fifty MILLION dollars looks pretty "worse".  Save the popping champagne corks for when GM makes some money instead losing less than expected.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Egon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 30th 2008 12:13PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>