• Apr 25, 2008
Transport Canada has been planning on implementing a change which would lower Canadian bumper safety standards from the current 8 km/h standard to 4 km/h. This halving of the standard would bring the Canadian testing in line with the regulations of both Europe and the U.S. Apparently, Transport Canada believes that vehicles would be cheaper to import while maintaining automobile safety. In fact, Canadian officials believe that the new standard could actually improve pedestrian safety. Or not, according to the IIHS, which has sent a letter to Transport Canada urging them to reconsider making the change. The IIHS response is pretty scathing, Using words and phrases like "unsubstantiated, incorrect assumptions, ill-informed and misleading," but the response could seemingly be summed up this way: Yo hosers, what were you thinking, eh? Thanks for the tip, Karen!
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      • 6 Years Ago
      Canada is merging in uniform with the US and so is Mexico, I ship cars through Canada and they are making it easier to go through customs. I just wish the new president will lower gass prices, we exceed 9,000.00 on every truck we run a month. http://www.car--transport.com If any one has any suggestions please post comments! Thanks !
      • 6 Years Ago
      The IIHS just doesn't want to pay for more car repairs, since softer bumpers that crumple easier=more repair costs.
      They after all, represent the insurance companies.
        • 6 Years Ago
        They should be called the Institute for increasing Insurance Industry Profits
      • 6 Years Ago
      If the IIHS really feels that strongly about it shouldn't they be pushing for the US to adopt the higher standard?

      Personally I am a big fan of the higher standard. Less damage in minor fender benders that could otherwise cost a fortune. Those costs get passed on to us in insurance premiums which are already high enough.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Yes canada has great building standards, just today

      ABBOTSFORD, British Columbia — At least 39 people were injured, three of them seriously, when the floor of a local church filled with teens collapsed during a concert.

      Police said about 1,000 youths were at the Central Heights Church in Abbotsford, British Columbia, to hear the Christian rock band Starfield when a large area in front of the stage gave way Friday night, sending people in the crowd falling several feet into the basement below.

      By late evening, David Plug, a spokesman for the local health authority said 23 people were treated in the Abbotsford Regional Hospital, while hospitals in the nearby cities of Chilliwack, Mission and Langley treated 16 people between them.

      "Most of the patients are minor fractures and similar injuries but there are some serious injuries and patients are still being assessed," said Plug.

      Const. Casey Vinet of the Abbotsford police said when officers arrived at the scene, they saw a hole in the floor about 22 feet wide.

      All available Abbotsford police, local Royal Canadian Mounted Police and ambulance crews were dispatched to the scene, Vinet said.

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      I guess if you drive no more then 15 MPH your all safe but here in the USA it is 60 MPH plus and any bumper existing standard would be useless.

      • 6 Years Ago

      The U.S. standard should be increased to match the Canadian standard.

        • 6 Years Ago
        Why Doug? I think it's a perfectly reasonable solution. What's wrong with a higher standard?
        • 6 Years Ago
        False.
      • 6 Years Ago
      5 mph bumpers (or the Canadian standard) are NOT meant as safety equipment.

      These bumpers are there to absorb low-speed collision energy so the energy absorbing autobody does not become damaged in a minor accident. These bumpers are a money/car saver, not a safety system.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Amen. The IIHS protest has everything thing to so with saving the insurance companies money and nothing to so with vehicle safety.
      • 6 Years Ago
      psarhjinian the big mouth

      What, like your gun policies? Or your drug policies? Or your medical care system? Or your copyright legislation? Or your, ahem, separation of church and state?

      No thanks. I'll take the Canadian option, as well as my 8km/h bumpers. I'll even take Steven Harper over George Bush (or McCain, Clinton and/or Obama) though I'll hate myself for it.

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      I think you mean your OK with the lower standard when you take American jobs away to build cars like the Camaro that are to USA standards, then it is just fine with you.

      It is because of your greed as to wages that killed off the Camaro and are doing it again with your demands to build the new Camaro to the lower USA standards.

      Or your coward ways in defending freedom around the world while stealing oil around the globe.

      Anyone who is worrried about tail ending another car at 14 KPH and thinks they will die from it as somehow 8 KPH difference will save your ass should not even be driving.

      Interesting I have drove American cars for over 40 years and not only have not died, I have never even been in a crash even at 5 MPH.

      There is not 1 thing canada has designed where even our money and defense protects you while you whine, bitch and moan about the USA while crying you need to build the GM cars your pissing in your panties about.

      Simple fix is buy all your cars from france or india, that is about your IQ anyhow.

      Next time russia wants to invade or nuke you go find a product in your country to defend you as we here in the USA are sick of paying millions for your defense. You find our NORAD specs are just fine but crap in your panties about a bumper standard when we know the real reason which is this limits American cars from selling in your county by a con job they do not meet the standards. If you do not buy them then quit making money making American cars which then we have to pay for
      • 6 Years Ago
      If it's good enough for America, it's good enough for Canada. I don't see the problem.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Yo psarhjinian, I'd take the Canadian options of those things too. And I'm American. Well technically Texan but you know what I mean.
        • 6 Years Ago
        What, like your gun policies? Or your drug policies? Or your medical care system? Or your copyright legislation? Or your, ahem, separation of church and state?

        No thanks. I'll take the Canadian option, as well as my 8km/h bumpers. I'll even take Steven Harper over George Bush (or McCain, Clinton and/or Obama) though I'll hate myself for it.




        (note to Americans: please have a sense of humour about this. I realize you do many things well, like regional culture, wireless data plans, a useful Senate, air quality legislation and national pride. Just not everything)
        • 6 Years Ago
        P

        I liked your posts, I really did and I can take a joke but you were over the top on that statement whether you were trying to be funny or not.

        Sure Bush isn't great but you would have a hard time finding people around the world who even know who youre Prime Minister is. The U.S. whether you want to admit it is still the economic power in the world and its a ways to the second. The U.S. can also produce enough food in the midwest alone to feed the world if it had to and gives more to poor nations than any other nation in the world. In 2005 the U.S. gives 1.85% of its GDP to charity with the U.K. the next closest at .84% and the numbers have been the roughly the same for years.

        The medical system here in the U.S. is the best in the world. If something very serious were to happen you will be treated and most of it will be paid for believe it or not. I have seen first hand with a friend without insurance who was hurt badly in an accident. He was treated as if he was insured and never had to pay his full bill. The U.S. is at the leading edge of many medical breakthroughs and that is thanks to the competition that is afforded by our "bad" health care system.

        I do like to visit Canada since I live in Michigan but Canada is very dependant on the U.S. in many aspects. The U.S. is also dependant on Canada for certain things like oil.

        The best part is that you brought in Bush, health care, gun and drug polices and the subject was bumpers!
        • 6 Years Ago
        If you think its a myth that millions of people come to the US from all over the world for advanced treatments then you are a complete idiot and in denial. The come to the US because its the only place that offers it!

        Wikipedia is never a reliable source since it can be edited by ANYONE! No honest person would ever use wikipedia as a source. Are you Michael Moore by chance?

        You know how they keep costs down? They cap the amount a service can be charged. If the US did that healthcare around the world would increase dramatically since the US absorbs the costs of others capping medical costs. I wish we would do it. Let Europe, Canada, and every third world nation pay 50% more in health care.

        So live in your hole, hate all you want but that is fact, ignore it at your ignorance.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Your not my buddy, guy!

      • 6 Years Ago
      This bumper difference is the only reason many American cars (Evo, R32) cannot be imported.

      The reason IIHS is against it, is most likey due to pressure from manufacturers. If Canadians could import American cars, they would be less likely to pay the large difference in the prices between the two countries. Some manufacturers (BMW...) will only honour the warranty if the US imported car is inspected at a BMW dealership...at a cost of $5k which partially negates the cost differential between the two countries.
        • 6 Years Ago
        They can be imported. Anything 15 years or older can be imported no questions asked into Canada.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Wow, I didn't know that and that totally make sense. Effing A-holes.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I don't think it's the manufacturers. The same Canadian-grade bumpers are sold on most cars sold in any quantity. The only cars that have trouble are "specials" with highly styled bumpers. I'm sure manufacturers would like to have one less standard to adhere to

        Besides, they'd still throw up warranty nullification as a barrier to grey-marketing just like they do now.

        No, the reason the IIHS is doing this is that the 8km/h bumper bash standard in Canada really does cost insurers less. Remember: IIHS = _Insurance_ Institute for Highway Safety; they're not an automaker or governmental organization, they're insurers and reinsurers. They're in favour of anything that keeps claims down, and that usually means safety and accident avoidance/mitigation technologies. Bumper-bashes cost a lot of money in net dollar terms, and I'm sure they've seen that per-capita claims dollars are lower in Canada than the US.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I think convergence is good for NA and EU, and Europe as a whole. It'll lower costs by 25%, take a huge chunk out of development times, increase flexibility, inventory of parts which could mean lower cost of replacement. So really nay-sayers just need to look at economic aspect of it and move on. As for IIHS I typically respect their opinions, but they only look at safety side aspect, and randomly take costs into account on a long-term basis.

      Cars will be prettier too, not having these ugly bumpers sticking out by a mile. Looking at Canadian EVO is heartbreaking, design is practically ruined by these ridiculous bumpers.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I'm totally against downgrading to 4KM bumpers, after having a minor collision with a Civic in midtown rush hour that left no trace(s) whatsoever on my car you can pretty much understand why.

      ... Not like it mattered much because my bumper got vandalized when I drove to Pennsylvania.
        • 6 Years Ago
        Who is to say the result would have been any different with the lower standard?
        • 6 Years Ago
        The speed. :P

        There was a car's space between us, my car hit hers and hers hit the CR-V in front (which was left unhurt).

        She had damages to her rear bumper (front was intact) and after a talk (yeah there wasn't any rage fest... Well, I was raged at myself but that's about it) I learned she got into a similar accident with it in the past and she didn't go to the dealer to get it repaired (nor a licensed shopped)... So I'm guessing that's the only plausible explanation.
        • 6 Years Ago
        I was in Pennsylvania for a concert. :)
        • 6 Years Ago
        why were you in Pa so you get health care quicker than in canada. our whole family used to go fishing all the time in canada but after they outlawed my personal protection,a gun,we quit going there.the people of canada have lost $1000s of dollars from our family because we no longer go to canada for any reason and i believe we are not the only ones.
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