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rsfourever @ Apr 21st 2008 1:11PM
i have to say - ferrari just doesn't excite me anymore... their cars all look the same, and they're pretty bland for supercars, if you ask me.
for that price and that type of car, i would go lamborghini at every turn...
Yar @ Apr 21st 2008 1:17PM
I agree. The last time a Ferrari really got to me was the 575M Maranello. It was so much better looking than the cars that replaced it.
Arsenal @ Apr 21st 2008 2:09PM
And with this pair of comments, I think it's firmly proven what it means to be an auto enthusiast today.
The proliferation of the self-involved "entertain me" attitude that reached its nadir in the geek tech world, has fully overrun the auto blogs and web communities.
The new breed of auto enthusiast is engaged with automobiles in ways that mean nothing to the true auto enthusiast. These new enthusiasts know very little about how a car actually works (and hence what makes them remarkable creations) but will happily dismiss the idea of a new model from an exotic sports car maker because it "doesn't excite them."
The rule of the day is to be dismiss anything that won't play to our most childish need to be entertained with shiny new objects. Appreciation of true performance, taste, and quality is meaningless in today's world where people only care about the meaningless veneer of spec sheets and an unending appetite for "shiny new."
In today's world, even a new Ferrari is meaningless unless it can impress the mindless masses waiting in line when you pull up at the club. Far better to look good than actually be good.
Cary @ Apr 21st 2008 2:51PM
Arsenal +2
rsfourever @ Apr 21st 2008 3:56PM
@ arsenal:
with your comment, it is firmly proven what it is to be a self-agrandising snob. Just becuase we don't agree with your views of what an exciting car is, doesn't give you the justification to claim that we don't understand how cars work or what's great about an engine etc.
why do i find lamborghinis much more exciting? well, for one, the designs are much more beautiful and awe-inspiring. ferrari has forgotten who they are. they make cars now to pander to the "new auto-enthusiasts" you seem to hate so much. Lamborghini, on the other hand, doesn't have 4 different models. they have two. and they keep improving on them year after year. they make cool variations of their cars (superleggeras, reventon, etc.) but stay true to Ferrucio's heart. they were cutting edge when they started, being the first sports-car producer to use independent rear-suspension. Their cars are all-wheel drive right now, which lets the immense power be put to the ground much more efficiently than any ferrari. and the best part? they're still using their V12 engine from the very beginning. they keep improving it, but it's the same at its essence.
so don't try to belittle someone's knowledge just because they disagree with you. i happen to think ferrari have become blah - no more than a dog and pony show for wealthy people who want to show-off. lamborghinis have stayed true to their roots, both in design and engineering/performance. you wont see a front engined lamborghini grand tourer any time soon, even if there could be a lot of money in it (yes, i know the 350 and the 400 were front engined).
Arsenal @ Apr 21st 2008 5:21PM
I'd say rsfourever's response proves the point all the more.
I apologize for getting you all riled up however. I knew it would happen but the point needed to be made.
Just a final point... Lamborghini was a farm tractor manufacturer who was pissed about a Ferrari he owned. It's not like he was an automotive visionary like Colin Chapman. Until very recently, Lamborghini's have been known for flashy design but poor performance. So lets not wax poetic about Lamborghini "staying true to their roots."
rsfourever @ Apr 21st 2008 5:35PM
"lamborghinis have been known for flashy design but poor performance"
well, with that comment i think you pretty much showed what your whole diatribe was about - you're just a ferrari fanboy who doesn't like lamborghinis. no need to act like you're all high and mighty. you just prefer ferraris (*cough* for many years rebadged fiats *cough*) and i prefer lamborghinis. not much less to it...
rsfourever @ Apr 21st 2008 5:36PM
sorry,that was supposed to read "not much ELSE to it"
Arsenal @ Apr 21st 2008 6:57PM
Ah, the dreaded "fanboy" attack. The ultimate expression of what it means to be an auto enthusiast today.
Thank you!
Matt @ Apr 23rd 2008 7:04PM
@ rsfourever
Rebadged Fiats?? Are you f@#%ing kidding me?? Fiat is just Ferrari's parent company. If Ferraris are "rebadged" Fiats, where is the Fiat that has a Mid engine V8 making over 400 hp? If Ferraris are rebadged Fiats, then Lamborghinis are rebadged Audis. And Lamborghinis have stayed true to their roots? I beg to differ. Ever since Audi took over Lamborghini has been dying slowly. don't get me wrong - they're great sports cars, but they're not what they used to be. The Countach, the legendary Lambo, was all about being totally extravagant and having the highest top speed possible. Now, Lamborghinis have kind of gone soft(er), with much more curvaceous designs, as opposed to the crazy angular form of the Countach. The company known as Lamborghini is not dying, but the company founded by Ferrucio Lamborghini is.