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Yankee @ Apr 14th 2008 8:29AM
Do away with Stoplights 4 way Stop signs work beter at least everybody has to stop
Derek @ Apr 14th 2008 9:11AM
Are you kidding? 4 way stops are the worst traffic disaster ever. Let's only have one car going through the intersection at a time - ever. Recipie for tremendous backups because you are not efficiently using the road. They work marginally in communities with low traffic and low speeds. Completley miserable with higher traffic volumes and speeds. You always end up with several seconds where 2-4 drivers are staring at each other trying to decide who got there first and who is going to move first? It also does not establish right of way so any collisions simply become a he-said, she-said argument where both parties are sure that they were at the sign first.
Andrew @ Apr 14th 2008 9:36AM
You've obviously never left the country. For the rest of the world's sake, please stay there.
jv2k @ Apr 14th 2008 12:29PM
A stop light that usually has a moderate amount of traffic in my area broke down earlier this year. Instead of fixing it immediately the lights got replaced by a 4 way stop sign for about half a month.
Let me give you 2 major reasons why it sucked.
1.People are stupid. Yes you are suppose to wait for the guy who got to the stop sign first but many times an idiot would get to a stop sign last and go first or even run the sign all together.
2. Traffic sucked. Late at night I'd be behind one or two people if there were people at all, but the traffic would be a pain during the day when there were way more cars on the road. There'd be long lines of cars taking turns to go and a turn would occasionally be proceeded by an awkward pause when the turn taking pattern was broken.
psarhjinian @ Apr 14th 2008 11:17AM
In a city with a few hundred thousand people and at intersections with three or four lanes per direction, plus left- and right-turn lanes, a four-way stop is flat out impractical.
You could make a case for a roundabout, sure, but a four-way? Even with two lanes per direction it wouldn't be feasible.
CurtesyDriving @ Apr 15th 2008 12:09AM
I agree with Derek that 4 way stop signs at every intersection would be a traffic nightmare. Here in most of the Bay Area, people don't even stop, they slow, roll and just go. Yellow/Amber lights should be lengthened according to at least how long it would take to cross the intersection at the speed limit plus a number of seconds for the # of feet before entering the intersection. In San Francisco, most amber lights have been lengthened in this manner and done mostly to minimize accidents and save lives.