• Apr 12, 2008
It's an unconfirmed rumor that Ford's going to make its Super Duty pickups shiftless, but the mere whiff of a reduction in choices is likely set enthusiasts afire with rage. The merits of standard versus automatic transmissions in trucks that routinely tow and generally work hard is a debate for another time, but the real crux of the biscuit comes down to cost. As it stands now, you can get a Power Stroke diesel with a manual for $1500 less than a self-shifter. If Ford removes the standard transmission from its Power Stroke offerings, does that mean that it will pass some of the savings on to consumers by reducing the price of the automatic? Not bloody likely. A more probable scenario would see the price of the Power Stroke option rising.

[Source: Four Wheeler]



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      • 6 Years Ago
      This news just makes me sick, why would they want to get rid of the manual transmission?? Don't even get me started on the whole manual vs. automatic debate. I truly hate automatics with a passion and if I can get a vehicle with a manual, then that is what I am going for.

      We bought a brand new F-350 with the V-10 engine back in 2002 and we had to have the manual put in it. Before I bought my 1969 Mach 1 Mustang a few years ago, my car had to have a manual. Also when my dad and I were looking around for an 1998 F-800 last year, we wouldn't even look at any of the trucks unless they had a manual transmission. So needless to say my family likes the manuals.

      I guess this news just shows how lazy people are getting as time goes on. I know automatics help out with certain things but you just can't kill off the manuals, they have been around forever and they are a blast to drive. So heres to hoping and praying that the manual will be around for many, many more years to come. Although I wouldn't hold my breath, especially in todays time when almost everyone wants everything to do the work for them.
        say no to Democide
        • 7 Months Ago
        I also like manuals for reasons such as simplicity. While you have to shift it every time you want to change gears, however, there are probably less electronics and less to go wrong.
      • 6 Years Ago
      lame.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Instead of dropping the manual, drop gasoline engines instead.
      • 6 Years Ago
      Biscuits gots cruxes!
      • 5 Years Ago
      No stick, no buy ford. Dodge is available
      • 6 Years Ago
      Even with the reduced power/torque that you get because you have decided to shift yourself, you should still be able to move just fine.
      Stick: 5.79, 3.3, 2.1, 1.3, 1, 0.72
      Auto: 3.11, 2.22, 1.55, 1, 0.72

      So that extra short 1st on the manual is like the torque converter, it gets you going.

      How would this save money if Ford offers the manual with the 6.4 in the commercial offerings?
      • 6 Years Ago
      I always like to have an opption between automatic and manual and thats what Ford needs.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I haven't seen an F series with a manual transmission, ever.
      I say drop it, honestly most in the real world don't care, so i can't blame ford for it.
      Maybe put the money saved from losing the variation into making AT's better.
      I think if you want a manual trans, buy a mustang.
      Regardless of what the minority want, the general public likes automatics, you know so they can hold their cell phones, eat sandwiches, and drink coffee while they drive.
      I assure you, if i was to drive a big ass pickup truck, it would be an auto
        • 6 Years Ago
        I can eat a sandwich, drink coffee and talk on my mobile while driving my M/T 3 series. :-) However, seeing that the cup holder is right behind the shifter, I am forced to buy a small size coffee.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I thought the crux of the biscuit was the apostrophe?
      • 6 Years Ago
      Ford should forget about the transmission and instead drop the awful interior from the truck. I'd rather drive an F250 with metal door skins than look at this.
      • 6 Years Ago
      altho, from operations standpoint, they'll be able to reduce production cost since there is less variations for the manual, and by getting rid of the lower cost option, they'll get more money out of it. now, im never a fan of reducing choices for the consumers, but ford needs to all the money it can get so they can turn the company around. and if thats what it takes for them to give me svt models, european models, im all for it.
      • 6 Years Ago
      I think this is a sad representation of drivers today. I think all vehicles should be standard, and if you cant learn, your too stupid to drive. While many will call this a harsh statement, think about it. I bet you half of the idiot americans that just buy a 1/2 ton truck to look cool in their driveway where it really doesnt fit, would not drive it if it was standard. There you go we just solved half the fuel efficiency problem.

      To the guy above that said nobody works GMs hard. Yes people do. My neighbor runs a plow truck company all his plowtrucks are GM, automatic, and they pound the living tar out of them. No, they dont get much more than 120,000 miles out of a tranny, but thats still decent.

      Again think about it. If every vehicle was standard, we'd A have alot less drivers, B have almost nobody dumb enough to drive on a cell phone, alot less fuel burned, longer lasting transmissions, I fail to see the downside.

      Having said all that, I do own an 88 sierra plowtruck that is equipped with an automatic, but I really can't find a plowtruck that has a standard.

      I wanted a new gmc truck at some point, but they screwed themselves out of my money some day by having no stick shift, and it looks like fords gonna too.
      Dodge here I come.
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