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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[I cannot believe this! You've been to Israel yet you haven't dropped by for a visit! Warn me the next time you're coming!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Ilya]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:22PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[So, this is a sort of European Chevy/Pontiac duality.  I like the way the car looks, but I can't help but think that the most likely sales casualty for this is the GTI.<br><br>I'd really like to know (and I hope VW would, too) that this car is stealing sales from Alfa, Opel or Ford, and not from VW itself.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[psarhjinian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:29PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[I'm sure SEAT steals some sales from Fiat, and perhaps from Lancia (especially this new style that has a very Lancia-esqe puckered grille with sweeping lines emanating from it) but I'm guessing they don't get a lot of Alfa customers.  I mean, *I* lusted after both the 147 and the Ibiza Cupra while I was working in Italy, but I'm a freak in general.  Hell, I drive a station wagon, that apparently marks me as one step out of the looney bin here in the 'states....]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[DKB_SATX]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 5:24PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA["Despite the Cupra's extra power over its Saxon stable-mate..."<br><br>Umm... Saxon? Is it on a Trabant platform?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mirko Reinhardt]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:34PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[HAHAHA<br><br>Next thing you know, someone will think there are Germans with dark hair, too.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 5:03PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[Great photography.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Injected]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:38PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[A first for Autoblog, yes.<br>Car-magazine-esque.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[hydrogenvodka]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 10:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA["The SEAT Leon Cupra may not be on it – although it might be"<br><br>Probably my favourite sentence of the whole article!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[TP]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[uhh, is the Euro spec GTI different than the US spec?  here in the US the GTI is 200hp out of the 2.0T, and the R32 gets 250hp out of a 3.2l V6.  There's quite a bit of room for the 2.0T to be massaged for more power, though, which would make sense for the Cupra.<br><br>overall, I'd say a cheaper GTI with less luxury weight and more power would be perfect for the american market.  or at least *my* market.  :)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think they might be confusing the specs of the "Golf GTI Edition 30" Which has a 227hp motor rather than the stock GTI's 200hp mill.<br><br>As far as I know they haven't announced if they're going to bring the 30 over as a 25th anniversary edition GTI like they did with the 25th/20th/337 GTI back in 2001/2/3.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 2:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[Bring it to the States! Bring it to the States!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[A Gupta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[I like]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Roger Demas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:45PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[I drove a Leon about 3000km on my last trip to Germany, my biggest complaint is the design of the rear door handles it causes wind noise and I was constantly checking to see if the rear windows were open. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MyOpel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:49PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[The wipers park up?<br><br>How well does that work with snow?<br><br>(and the inboard low beam headlights just look odd)]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeW]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 12:50PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[Why did you go so far to test this car? it´s already on sell in Mexico.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Hube]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 1:18PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[No interior shots? So sad.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Blake]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 1:28PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[the GTI probably actually makes 227-238 but is only listed as 200 (i have seen stock dyno charts that show 0 drivetrain loss, and some that show more wheel torque than fly rating). VW downrated the 1.8t too... try to make you think that VWhp is more powerful than everyone else's hp?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[havoc]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 1:32PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[any dyno can return any number of different results, but motor trend dyno'd the MS3, Si, and the GTI, and ended up with 178 wheel hp for the GTI:<br><br><a href="http://automobile.automotive.com/4474/0610-gti-civic-mazdaspeed3-dyno/volkswagen-gti.html" rel="nofollow">http://automobile.automotive.com/4474/0610-gti-civic-mazdaspeed3-dyno/volkswagen-gti.html</a><br><br>That's a relatively average 11% drivetrain loss, especially for a FWD car.  VW might be fudging the numbers a little bit, and they've definitely have "castrated" the engine and held its power down some (easily rectified with a chip), but that does seem to be about the numbers that they're putting out.  *Maybe* they're putting out up to about 210, resulting in a 15% drivetrain loss, but that's probably about it...  For it to be putting out 238hp at the crank you're talking about almost a 25% drivetrain loss, which is unheard of for a FWD car.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Travis]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 3:32PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[These guys got much better results with 8% loss on this one.<br><br><a href="http://www.rri.se/popup/performancegraphs.php?ChartsID=142" rel="nofollow">http://www.rri.se/popup/performancegraphs.php?ChartsID=142</a><br><br>The second one did even better with only 3% loss and more torque at the wheels then the manufacterers claim.<br><br><a href="http://www.rri.se/popup/performancegraphs.php?ChartsID=605" rel="nofollow">http://www.rri.se/popup/performancegraphs.php?ChartsID=605</a><br><br>The Edition 30 with 230hp which they talk about in this article also only had 3% loss and more torque then the official claim.<br><br><a href="http://www.rri.se/popup/performancegraphs.php?ChartsID=758" rel="nofollow">http://www.rri.se/popup/performancegraphs.php?ChartsID=758</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HeyHuub]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 5:21PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on First Drive: SEAT Leon Cupra]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/10/first-drive-seat-leon-cupra/</guid><description><![CDATA[I definitely like the swoopy looks of SEAT's version of this platform much more than VW's somewhat dowdy looking Golf. I can see myself driving the SEAT version if it doesn't have quality/reliability issues.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Cire]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Apr 10th 2008 1:38PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>