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Ian @ Apr 8th 2008 10:57AM
I owned a Range Rover for many years and slowly rebuilt it as all the parts rusted out. Meantime it was a fine family machine and great in winter.
Now there are so many 4WD choices . Does the world really need a V12 RangeRover weighing perhaps 6,000 lbs+ and getting 'orrible gas consumption?
Not me. My present ML will be replaced with a hybrid around 2010 when some very innovative machines are released to consumers.
A V12 RR>>>Yawn.....
CLynch @ Apr 8th 2008 1:11PM
Why?
DJ @ Apr 8th 2008 11:12AM
Actually, the next RR is being designed to be built with aluminum (or as Jeremy Clarkson would say AlOOminEum) and the goal is to cut weight by 20%.
British_ROver @ Apr 8th 2008 12:46PM
What did you do to mostly aluminum Range Rover to make it rust out? I have seen a few rusted out Range Rovers or Range Rovers that were eaten apart by electrolysis but they are mostly early pre-1990 Classics that were seriously abused or abandoned. About a year ago I looked at a 1987 Classic with over 300,000 miles on it that had been left abandoned outside for over ten years. The bumpers, tailgate, floor pans and parts of the frame had rusted through.
The current diesel Range Rover already gets 25.5 mpg combined(19.6 city and 31.2 highway) on the UK cycle so blame California for not having a mid to upper 20s mpg Diesel Range Rover in the states. The current 3.6 liter TDV8 is pretty clean but it is no tier 2 bin 5 clean.
Also as mentioned before the next gen Range Rover is supposed to be aluminum so with a 1,000 plus pounds of weight savings that should get a diesel Range Rover well into the mid 30s highway.
British_Rover @ Apr 8th 2008 12:48PM
Oops forgot the link
http://www.landrover.co.uk/gb/en/Vehicles/New_Range_Rover/Specifications/Range_rover_engines_and_performance.htm
Ian @ Apr 8th 2008 1:53PM
Well Yes it was a RR 1990 vintage which I kept for 8 years and had full dealer servicing by RR in NY and NJ. It performed great as a vehicle, except for poor heating....I never solved that, but parts rusted out like 3 gas tanks etc. etc. etc. Basically anything non aluminum (aluminium to UKers) rusted out! I was still sorry to part with it after 107K miles. Man that car could corner fast....
Diesel variants are a non starter in the USA as that fuel carries a pump price of around 30% more than premium gasoline.
Newer versions of the RR are so much more Sloanies than the go anywhere narrow tire vehicle upon which it is based. I see little point in paying the price premium RR wants these days. 15 years ago there was basically nothing to touch them, now even GM has a vast SUV hybrid getting 20 mpg (average) from a US gallon as well. Sure not quite the social status symbol, but I never bought a vehicle for anything other than it's inate performance capabilities.
By 2010 GM is indicating some of their crossover, of good size, will have newer hybrid technologies which will allow for room, performance and 22/32+ mpg (US). I might pair this with a EVolt, or a Pontiac G8 GT. This type of pairing excites me so much more than a potential V12 Range Rover. With the savings I could install solar panels on my house as well and be near electricity grid free:)
My how times have changed! Maybe I could also add a nicely restored Jensen Interceptor (had one of these for 15 years). I used to get 12 mpg outa that.