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Shawn @ Apr 1st 2008 2:00PM
What consenting adults do in their own private time is their business. Once he steps outside of that office, he is free and able to do whatever he wants within the confines of the law. He should not be penalized over the leak of a video he never intented to be made public.
The "Royal Family" in Bahrain also views homosexuality as a crime. Should FIA ban gays from the event as well?
dan spalinger @ Apr 1st 2008 2:03PM
Boy, you really live with your head in the sand don't you?? I guess lying under oath about "personal relations" with an intern is cool by you as well...
Shawn @ Apr 1st 2008 2:09PM
dan, he is not a government official. He did not have sex with an employee (someone working for the company). He did not make false statements under oath. He did not do anything illegal.
Should you be fired over something you do in your private life that is legal? For example, if you are not married and living with your girlfriend. Should your job be able to fire you over that? This is no different.
Luis @ Apr 1st 2008 2:10PM
Hear that? That's the sound of a can of worms opening up...How many times has it happenned that someone did something stupid and it came back to bite them in the rear? If you're a high profile personality, you have to at least be aware of the potential for this to happen. Using a little common sense goes a long way.
SnapDaddy @ Apr 1st 2008 4:49PM
I guess that keeps Ralph Schummacher out.
Franz @ Apr 1st 2008 2:24PM
There is a huge difference between legality and morality. Sure, there are no laws against what Mosley did but that doesn't make it any less distasteful. Just like there were no laws against Clinton getting blown in the White House. Some behavior is just unacceptable when you're a public figure.
I'm sure no one here needs a history lesson on the crimes of Adolf Hitler, and in my opinion, recreating something as diabolical and sinister as a concentration camp for your own sick twisted pleasure could have only been done by someone who found those events acceptable in the first place. I wouldn't want him running my organization, or coming to my country either.
We were born with brains and common sense. (Well, most of us anyways) You don't always need to have laws passed to tell us that somethings are in really bad taste and as a result, considered unacceptable behavior... especially when carried out by a public figure.
Shawn @ Apr 1st 2008 2:35PM
Franz, morality? Should gays get in trouble at work because their employer thinks homosexuality is immoral? He was NOT a public figure until the leak of this video. How many people, even race fans, would have been able to pick Mosley out of a lineup before?
Franz @ Apr 1st 2008 3:07PM
Are you a homosexual Shawn? Well if you are, my beef isn't with gays so you don't need to keep bringing it up. Stick to the point, which is Max Mosley's concentration camp fetish. Frankly, I wouldn't compare the two: I don't know of any Gay mass murderers.
And Mosley was and is a public figure. You underestimate motorsport fans. I've known what he looked like for years. For a lot of F1 fans, mention F1 and images of Mosley and Bernie Ecclestone come immediately to mind, especially in light of some of the nonsensical rulings that have come out of the FIA these recent years.
Also, at the very least he's known by the various advertisers who pump millions of dollars into motorsport every year. Not to mention team principals, employees and representatives from the various manufacturers who compete. In case you didn't know, F1 is the pinnacle of motorsport. Why do you think various countries are spending millions on grandstands and circuits, trying to get a race? I suppose all these people don't know what Max Mosley looks like either.
Disgruntled Goat @ Apr 1st 2008 3:24PM
Once he steps outside of that office he is free and able to do whatever he wants within the confines of the law but that doesn't mean there are no consequences for his actions.
Most people would probably view this as deviant behavior. If you display deviant behavior then that is indicative of fairly serious character flaws. If you have this character flaw and you've been able to hide it for this long then what other character flaws are you hiding? What other deviant behavior are you involved in that we don't know about?
With being a leader comes being held to a higher standard. We expect leaders to not be deviants, or liars, or whatever. That's why what public figures and other leaders do behind the scenes is our business even though what you do isn't.
Pdexter @ Apr 1st 2008 3:20PM
At least here in Finland if you sent +100 text messages to strip dancer you get fired like our lovely Foreign Minister Kanerva showed as today.
So some Nazi orgies should be no brainer ;)
We are getting far better guy to replace Kanerva and Max would probally be replaced by someone who knows what he's doing(that is if he would be sacked).
John B @ Apr 1st 2008 5:35PM
Given his father was Oswald Mosley, former leader of the British Union of Fascists prior to and during WW II, and that F1 relies heavily on sponsorship, I would expect dressing in Nazi prison camp garb and engaging in S&M sex isn't the wisest thing to do. He should be canned for bad judgement as much as for the actual behaviour.