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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[Not much of a suprise for me. I've always thought the Prius has been all hype anyway.<br><br>Time to start thinking. Ugly and slow Prius, or fast, brilliantly shaped 5 series, hmm...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Dan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 12:12PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[All hype?  Spoken like someone who hasn't owned one.<br><br>This test is proof that you can alter the conditions of any situation to get the outcome you desire.  So a diesel gets good mileage on the highway.  No surprise there.  Too bad there are so few diesel cars in the U.S. and the fuel's outrageous.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob-omb]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 12:33PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[OK I am not a Prius fan but this comparison just doesn't seem right.<br><br>First, BMW is much more expensive.<br><br>Second, why did they only add 100 miles urban driving? Just felt pity for Toyota? If 460 miles were driven on BMW's strong point, then at least 350 miles should have been driven on Toyota's strong point (urban).]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tinu]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 12:42PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[I wouldn't exactly call the 520d "fast", but you're on the right track.<br><br>Diesels can give you better mileage without making you feel like you're sacrificing your driving experience in some world-saving crusade.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[416Hammy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 1:01PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[Ultra Low Sulfer Diesel fuel should, theoretically, cost about 5% more than gasoline to produce from the same crude. The cost differences are due to a number of things including taxes, demand, and refinery capacity. Diesel contains about 10% more energy by volume than gas and therefore produces about 10% more CO2 by volume when burned.<br><br>If you're comparing diesel vs gas hybrids, you need to take into account the additional energy-per-liter/gallon, and you need to look at CO2 emissions.<br><br>The fact that the Prius had significantly better CO2 emissions is an important stat.<br><br>The end result is: they're both great cars, they have different advantages, and they serve different purposes.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 1:19PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[For many it will be to spend $60,000 or $24,000. Also, lets factor in the additional cost of diesel fuel which I understand is currently running upwards of $1.00 more per gallon. <br><br>I would love to have a BMW diesel, don't get me wrong, but the Prius still has that crown as an affordable "green" car that gets good gas mileage with midsized car room and hatchback versitility.<br>  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[antrow]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 1:39PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[@Duncan:<br><br>"Diesel contains about 10% more energy by volume than gas and therefore produces about 10% more CO2 by volume when burned."<br><br>Just to clarify: diesel contains more energy because it weighs more.  It weighs more because it physically takes more crude oil to make a gallon of diesel than a gallon of gasoline: depending on estimates, it's between 15-25% more crude per gallon.<br><br>Then there's the high-strength block, high-pressure injectors, turbocharger and emissions control system.  Granted, not quite as complex as a parallel hybrid, but not as simple as a naturally-aspirated gas engine, either.<br><br>Compression ignition is a good technology, but I think there's a bias amongst gearheards towards diesel, and it's one that conveniently glosses over the true fuel requirements and complexity inherent in a modern TDI.<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[psarhjinian]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 3:59PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[@psarhjinian Right, it's 15% not 10%. Diesel is also easier to produce than gasoline, so it's not quite 15% more expensive to produce. Like I mentioned, the price difference in the US is do more to demand/refinery capacity (supply) than being more difficult or expensive to manufacture than gasoline. Remember that recently diesel was cheaper than gasoline. The move to ULSD brought the price up slightly, as has demand.<br><br>While diesel engines are more expensive to manufacture for the reasons you mention, hybrids of course also add complexity. In addition, the diesel, properly maintained, should provide a more consistent level of performance over it's lifecycle than will a battery-assisted gasoline engine (which won't be reaching the same mileage numbers after 100k-200k miles).<br><br>There's tradeoffs for both. And this is really an apple-oranges comparison since the 5 series isn't really in the same size or price class as the Prius. I don't think many people are going to be cross shopping a $45k+ mid-sized sedan against a $24k compact.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Duncan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 4:48PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[Addressing the but a Prius is smaller can cheaper. Over in euroland where this test was done BMW sell the 1 series as a 5 door hatch, one particular option is the 118d which retails for £18,800 as whilst a basic Prius T3 is £17,777. So approx £1,000 more for the BMW. Both cars are in the same size class yet the official fuel consumption figures are:<br>Prius 65mpg (imperial), 109g/km<br>118d 62mpg (imperial), 119g/km <br><br>I'd bet that under a real world test the 118d would substantially beat a Prius. The offical figures for a 520d are:<br>55.4mpg (imperial), 136g/km<br><br>It must be noted that the co2/km figure is calculated from the combined cycle fuel economy figure so any test that over states economy will understate co2 emissions.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[b0rk]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 7:16PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[Time for you to read the article. It even stated that the condition is unfair. Prius is an urban commuter..-- wait you probably won't read this anyway.  Maybe you'll read nonsense: Blah blah you should read blah blah read blah blah tool. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[digitalzombie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 23rd 2008 9:36PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on ]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/23/bmw-520d-beats-prius-in-gas-mileage/</guid><description><![CDATA[How do you think a diesel hybrid Prius would do?]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 25th 2008 3:58PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>