• Mar 22nd 2008 at 4:52PM
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So, was Bob Lutz right, or was it just bad luck? Just as I picked up a new Mazda MX-5 to drive for a few days following the Vernal Equinox, it has started to snow (and snow, and snow). We've actually had more snow this winter than I can recall in quite a few years. Getting 4-5 more inches of the stuff the day after the official start of Spring doesn't help the argument. However, regardless of what might be happening around here on any given day, (and getting snow on Easter is not at all unusual in Michigan) the preponderance of the evidence still seems to point to the fact that something is definitely happening to our planet. Earth itself will ultimately survive - as it has before - following numerous mass extinctions. The planet is not in peril. Humans and the plant and animal species that we depend on for survival, on the other hand, are. The planet will go on and new species will crop up for several billion more years after we're long gone until the sun decides to pack it in. But if we want to stretch out our time here, we need to be a lot more thoughtful about how we utilize natural resources. Was Lutz right? It probably doesn't really matter. The problems we face with collapsing fish stocks and energy supplies are of far more immediate concern anyway.

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      • 7 Years Ago
      "I find it really odd that the guy who posts on Autobloggreen the most doesn't drive a green car."

      To be fair, how much you drive can be much more a factor of your 'green-fu' than simply going with the Prius. No car is green, no matter what the ads tell you (and even they don't tell you that here in Norway, since it's banned to say any car with emissions to be green).

      Fact is, Prius also pollutes. So if you drive 20k miles a year in a Prius, you're not very green. If instead of driving 20k miles a year in a Prius, you sometimes 'indulge' driving a droptop Miata (say, 5k miles a year, since global cooling created by global warming is hating on your convertible action), you're actually greener than the average Prius driver.

      Let me school you a bit:

      miles / gallon != emissions
      miles driven / miles per gallon ~= emissions
      Environment doesn't care whether a CO2 emission comes from a hybrid or a non-hybrid

      (~= means approximate relation here) So to reduce your emissions (to be greener), you can either:

      a) increase your MPG
      b) decrease your miles driven

      Result of this is:

      A non-hybrid driver can be greener than a hybrid driver, depending on:

      1) Miles driven
      2) Driving habits
      3) Other carbon emissions (housing, electricity, flying for self discovery holidays, etc..)

      But I guess this goes to deaf ears, since buying a Prius is supposed to be the defacto, unquestionable, proof of your greenness. No matter how much you drive it, how many holidays you fly to or what kind of mansion you live in ;-)
      • 7 Years Ago
      Great post MikeW.
      Did you just prove Bush is a powerless puppet of big oil?
      Is this really Bush's house?

      Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university, this house
      incorporates every 'green' feature current home construction can provide. The house has 4 bedrooms
      and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet holds geothermal heatpumps
      circulating water through pipes sunk 300 feet deep. The water (usually 67 degrees F) heats the
      house in the winter and cools it in the summer. The system uses one-quarter of the electricity used by a
      conventional system. Rainwater is collected in a 25,000-gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from
      showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks, then into the cistern, from which the
      garden is irrigated.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I simply cannot believe how many people are so dumb as to think that *anyone* in the scientific community thinks that the climate follows a smooth curve.

      This is only the coldest winter since *2001*. It is an *above average winter*. We've simply gotten used to such above-average winters that it seems abnormally cold to us. Why is it so "cold"? Because this is the strongest La Nina since 1988/1989. La Nina is an upwelling of cool water in the Pacific, lowering ocean surface temperatures.

      Oh, and to the deniers:
      • 7 Years Ago
      Yes, the Miata really should be a hybrid. What's up with Mazda?

      As for me, I'm still waiting for a plug.
      The Re1, and the 2009 Prius, a hybrid Fit?, a new EV1?.... Still waiting...

      Big deal you got a snow fall:
      No Winter in Britain: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=512896&in_page_id=1770

      We, in eastern PA, got a WHOLE 3 DAYS with snow on the ground.
      Yea, 3 days of snow MUST PROVE global warming is a croc.

      • 7 Years Ago
      Some indicators actually says that the last year has been cooling globally:
      • 7 Years Ago
      I feel like some people are taking this post too seriously. Chill out. No pun intended.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Right on Sam! Just as we've back off Global Warming and changed to "Climate Change" which is about as vague as you can get. Energy independance should be the proirity which aside to it environmental benefits will be vital to maintain our standard of living.
      • 7 Years Ago
      When coal was the prime fuel to heat homes, the coal industry put forth Doctors telling people coal particles were good for the lungs, helped the lungs to purify the air you breath. We now know, of course, you'd get cancer from coal particles. And people switched from coal to oil or natural gas for home heat.

      I've seen with my own eyes a science book from 1945, where scientists explained how you got cancer from cigarettes. It took 30 years before the general public "believed".

      And now the same thing with global warming.

      Buggy Whip Industry's Fight Tooth and Nail to stay Relevant.

      The electric engine produces Maximum Torque at Zero RPM, therefore, the V8 is now a DEAD END, yet GM is till pushing into the market 400 hp guzzlers.

      The EV1 stats:
      0-60: 8.5 seconds
      top speed: 80 mph
      range: 120 miles

      The V8 was dead 17 years ago.

      • 7 Years Ago
      I would have guessed that all the contributors of this blog drove green cars. The Miata gets decent, but not great fuel economy and could hardly be considered a green alternative.

      I don't know your story, but this seems to be a big part of the problem in the United States. We talk a lot about renewable energy, about recycling, about greening our lives through less consumption and better choices, but I still see progressives making choices that are hardly progressive in any substantial way.

      How many of the contributors on Autobloggreen drive hybrids or at least cars that get better than 30mpg?

      • 7 Years Ago
      Jake tells everybody to educate themselves. I agree but where does that lead you? the whole discussion is politicized on both sides. You want scientific jargon, experts, charts and convincing argumentation to prove the other side are a bunch of nutty monkeys. It's all out there man.

      The "AGM is a Myth" people are more convincing to me, but that doesn't prove they're right.

      The more I read on all sides, the more I think that nobody really knows anything, therefore we should all tone down the rhetoric and the politics.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I learned the info that Gore is teaching about 13 years ago in college. If you look at geologic time to see how much CO2 has been put in the air naturally it takes tens of thousands of years to for carbon to build up. So yes global warming is a natural cause. Now, all of you who doubt that we humans have an affect on CO2 in the atmosphere I am sure you know by now that the world is not flat. Stop denying the truth. By driving cars, running factories, and producing energy with STORED carbon, (that stuff we dig up from the ground i.e. coal, oil, shale, tar sands and natural gas) we are putting a tremendous amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. Just imagine lakes of oil, billions and billions of gallons have already been burned and there are billions and billions more to burn and it all goes into the atmosphere. YES!! WE ARE RESPONSIBLE !!!! Just look at the CO2 chart graphing the CO2 in the atmosphere you clearly see CO2 levels rising significantly starting in the mid 1800's, the start of the industrial revolution,and increases again in the 1920's, the start of the roaring economy and then the war. In the 60's and 70's another significant increase and again the the 90's to present the levels are skyrocketing. We have put in the atmosphere, in the last 150 years, more carbon than nature has in 10,000 years. Now do you get it?
      • 7 Years Ago
      What everyone's missing here, is the fact that the Miata is a fantastic snow car! Slap a set of snow tires on, and it will take on anything. It is very satisfying to cruise down a snow-laden road in a Miata, looking at all the overturned SUVs in the ditches. We used to take ours on ski trips all the time.

      Oh, and Bob Lutz is a tool, regardless of what he thinks about global warming.
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