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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA["Despite the Bimmer's impressive flat torque curve..."<br><br>Wait, the new M3 has torque?  That's news to me...]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Yar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 9:40AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[I think they're impressed with the flatness of the curve, not the actual amount of torque.  It appears to stay between 250 and 275 lb/ft for most of the pull, well below the GT-R.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[71cuda]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 9:49AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Perhaps they should have enclosed the whole torque comment for the M3 in "sarcasm" tags.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul H]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 10:03AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Flat torque curve is the mark of all BMW M cars. Peak torque is only significant for magazine write-ups and bench racer bragging rights. Flat torque curve translates to versatility and available power through-out the broad RPM range. Note, this doesn't mean that it is better than the next car. It just tells you how the driver must adapt his/her driving style to be fast or faster.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[tuna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 2:26PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Name me an atmosperic 4.0 V8 that produces more torque then the M3's V8.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[HeyHuub]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 14th 2008 3:56AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[As much as I appreciate this blog piece, it is extremely pointless. A DynaPack and Mustang Dyno are two of the worst dynos out there. On top of that, you can't compare dynos from one dyno brand to another. This test would be infinitely more accurate if it were done on the very same dyno machine, that way all variable conditions would also be the same.  ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Arnold K.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 10:15AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Woops, I meant to direct that at Edmunds. Not AutoBlog. ]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Arnold K.]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 10:16AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Heck, dyno 'numbers' in general are pretty pointless.  Have just the dyno plots of a single car has some value, it shows the torque (and therefore horsepower) curves.<br><br>These tests are very interesting because they actually compare two cars on the same dyno.  The 911 turbo is rated at 480ps and the GTR at roughly the same.  Surprise surprise, they acutally point down the same power on the same dyno.<br><br>Interesting bits, even though the 911 has a smaller motor, its torque ramps up faster due to the VGT turbos.  The GTR is superior from 3.5k to 6k rpms though, right in the meat of the rev range where you'd be spending your time on a road course.<br><br>LS2/LS7, two different UK mags have compared the GTR to a 911 turbo and GT3, and both times the GTR has been faster around the road course.  Easier to drive and it puts down the power much better allowing for better corner exit speeds.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[spdracerut]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 11:49AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[@why not the LS2/LS7?<br><br>"I bet the 911 turbo still takes it on the track. The bizarre rear engine 911 drivetrain layout has some significant advantages on the track"<br><br>Too general. Depends on what track. Reports so far suggests the GT-R is quite a bit faster with the GT3 being a closer match.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[tuna]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 2:31PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Can you please explain to me why Dynapack is a "bad dyno"?? From what I know, it is the most repeatable dyno out there because it removes a lot of variables of rolling drum dynos and newer Dynapacks come with software that very accurately accounts for the effect of the loss of the wheel/tire on horsepower.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 6:15PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Every engine delivers torque, otherwise it couldn't deliver any power. The question is, how much torque at which speed?<br><br>The 4.0L V8 in the M3 is naturally aspirated high rev concept. That means it is designed to deliver moderate but fairly constant torque over a very wide speed range and, enthusiastic throttle response. In the second graphic, the fat lines correspond to the Skyline, the thin ones to the M3. Torque on the left, power on the right.<br><br>The Porsche and the GT-R feature slightly lower displacements at 3.5 and 3.6L, respectively. However, both are fitted with large turbos for high boost power at high RPM. This lets them beat the M3 on the dyno, but the sound and feel is of course different. The key result here is that the GT-R' engine really does compare to the 911 Turbo.<br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[rgseidl]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 10:22AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[wow, I can not say it better!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MasterBoy]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 10:50AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[I though GT-R had a special 3.8L version of the VK V6?  Either way it makes a mockery of the M3.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Frylock350]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 11:08AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[The GT-R motor is most definitely a 3.8L. And as to matching up to the turbo, yeah, it sure seems it does. It takes 10% more displacement to do it, which isn't all that bad.<br><br>I bet the 911 turbo still takes it on the track. The bizarre rear engine 911 drivetrain layout has some significant advantages on the track.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[why not the LS2LS7?]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 11:23AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[@ls2/ls7,<br>They already compared the 911, M3 and GTR at the track and the GTR is the fastest of the three.<br><br>Also note that this is a JDM GTR, not an USDM GTR.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Injected]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 11:37AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Actually, a japanese automotive program pitted a GT-R against a 997 Turbo and the 997 didn't stand a chance.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Sherief]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 1:23PM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Gotta respect the GT-R's engine, real awesome for a MSRP 77000 car (damn dealers) and matches a 997 Turbo, wow!]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mobius_1]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 10:22AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Wow. Mustang dyno numbers are always low, but the Dynapack seems to be about right. But dyno numbers will vary. Remember the first Japanese dyno test (on a Dynapack) recorded about 475whp, and caused quite a flurry of posts claiming it was actually flywheel hp that was shown. <br><br>Here's a dyno test on a Dastek 4WD dyno o the first UK GT-R:<br><a href="http://www.gtrblog.com/index.php?blog=4&title=gtc-s-standard-r35-gt-r-makes-520hp-on-d&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.gtrblog.com/index.php?blog=4&title=gtc-s-standard-r35-gt-r-makes-520hp-on-d&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1</a><br><br>As well as a review of said GT-R by a 997 GT3 owner:<br><a href="http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/92347-so-i-drove-gtr-today-thanks-ben.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/92347-so-i-drove-gtr-today-thanks-ben.html</a>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[Franz]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 11:13AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Yeah for double clutch transmission!<br><br>The M3 may not have torque, but it still moves.<br><a href="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=124954/pageId=136254" rel="nofollow">http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=124954/pageId=136254</a><br>(and doesn't that include an upshift into 4th?)<br><br>So with a double clutch, 12.5@115?<br><br>BMW's double clutch has 7 forward gears, will Porsche's?<br><br>]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeW]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 11:36AM</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Comments on Nissan GT-R meets the dyno, a 997 Porsche Turbo and an E92 BMW M3]]></title><link>http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/13/nissan-gt-r-meets-the-dyno-997-porsche-turbo-and-e92-bmw-m3/</guid><description><![CDATA[Um.. yes.  Posrche owns VAG.  VAG's had DSG in production road cars much longer then BMW, who's only attempting now.  VAG's already set to release their seven speed DSG, so yes, Porsche won't have any problems sourcing a 7 speed should they feel the need.  Though, seeing as the Turbo is already as quick as the Carrera GT with a traditional slushbox, I'm a little scared at the prospect of a DSG Turbo.  EEP.]]></description><dc:creator><![CDATA[zamafir]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mar 13th 2008 2:22PM</pubDate></item></channel></rss>