http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/ Autoblog Comments for Subaru may offer diesel version of WRX http://www.autoblog.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.autoblog.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 10:11AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 10:41AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 10:15AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 10:26AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
The 'odd' factor is part of why Subbies are so awesome. Without it, they simply don't stand out.]]>Feb 11th 2008 10:28AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
Imagine a diesel WRC car :P.]]>Feb 11th 2008 10:33AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 10:38AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
And yes, a diesel would be a great addition.]]>Feb 11th 2008 11:03AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 11:31AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
As strict as the US? Or as strict as California? The US diesel standard is actually pretty lax compared to the CARB standard.]]>Feb 11th 2008 11:38AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
Even CARB Diesel standards are pretty loose. A "clean Diesel" in CARB area pollutes 3.5x as much (in trace emissions) as a clean gas car (like a PZEV Focus or Accord). In fact they pollute so much that any large uptake in them would mean companies would have trouble meeting their fleet averages. Thus I really can't see them taking off in cheaper cars like Imprezas just yet.

I really wish Diesels would meet the same standards as gas cars, if they were even as clean as the average gas car in CARB I'd be pretty thrilled. Right now, you have to choose between putting out more CO2 or generating more smog, which isn't a happy choice either way.]]>Feb 11th 2008 12:25PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 11:50AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 12:14PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
If they ever bring it to the states, I'll look into it... but since they've discontinued the Legacy Wagon here I doubt I'll be buying. I don't want a gangly-legged crossover Outback leaning around turns all the time.]]>Feb 11th 2008 4:19PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/The new Honda 2.2 i-DTEC diesel comes with 150hp..wow a 10hp improvent over the old 2.2l... still 54hp short to the 2.0l from BMW]]>Feb 13th 2008 5:18AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
The LEV II standards that CARB (California) holds for NOx is currently 0.05 g/km through 2010.

European Tier 5 which is adopted in September 2009 is merely 0.18 g/km. (For diesels only, they are separate emission levels for petrol and diesel.) The Tier 6 levels which are to take effect Sept 2014 reduce NOx levels to 0.08 g/km which is still higher than the current CARB levels! The current Tier 4 level is .25 g/km.

The upcoming 2009 US federal Tier 2 emission standards use a manufacturer's fleet average of 0.07 g/km. This may seem as stringent as the CARB standards but it isn't too difficult considering that gasoline emissions are basically NOx free.

Autoblog should do some more research on their part before making such statements that aren't true.]]>Feb 11th 2008 12:34PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/
LS2/LS7: Diesels pollute more NOx but less carbon based emissions. It's a trade-off.

Example:
UK Civic 2.2L Diesel:
NOx: .141 g/km
CO2: 135 g/km
CO: .144 g/km
HC: None

UK Civic 1.8L Gasoline:
NOx: .006 g/km
CO2: 152 g/km
CO: .200 g/km
HC: .027 g/km

See, more carbons, less NOx out of a gasoline. I don't know enough to say which is worse, however.]]>Feb 11th 2008 12:59PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 1:00PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 2:41PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/11/subaru-may-offer-diesel-version-of-wrx/Feb 11th 2008 3:47PM