Recently, I told you MotorWeek's Pat Goss said ethanol conversions are impractical. Drive Flex Fuel put a video on YouTube countering everything Pat said. You can read everything they wrote below but the one thing that struck me was they seem to accuse Pat of making up a metal. The text in the video says "TURN METAL? Much like the Unicorn, we have not been able to find any sign of its existance. After extensive internet research, we still have not found any information on 'turn metal.'"

I found it. I think it's Terne not Turn and according to this .ppt file (Power Point Presentation) "Terne metal material (typical metal tank) is not compatible with ethanol without special coatings." I am not taking MotorWeek's side because they are a little wrong too: Pat could have mentioned the government has certified an ethanol conversion kit. I contacted Drive Flex Fuel as well as MotorWeek and I hope this is settled nicely. I saw the host of MotorWeek at the Washington Auto Show recently and I watch the show every week.

I also think the growing body of studies say, at the very least, regular cars can probably handle higher blends of ethanol. When I was at Washington Auto Show, someone on a panel told me that in Brazil, twenty percent ethanol (or E20) and even higher percentage blends, is the "standard gasoline" and gas cars in the country are doing just fine.

[Source: YouTube]
Are you really being taken?
Additional Information Supplied by

Please keep in mind
Mr. Goss is providing information
supplied by General Motors Corp.

GM would like to sell you a
NEW Flex Fuel Vehicle.

Gas Cap:
We would like to add that the gas cap on a factory
FFV is yellow.

Are the standard ones really inferior?

Wire Connections:

Flame Arrestor / Anti-siphon Valve:
It is my understanding that these are standard
safety devices on all filler tubes.

Fuel Pump:
Yes a different pump is installed. However, test
vehicles have run E85 for over 100,000 miles on a
standard fuel pump.

Fuel Gauge:
A factory FFV can not have a gauge that states
"Unleaded Fuel Only"

Fuel Tank:
A different tank is installed. However, standard tanks have been used in excess of 100,000 miles with no problems reported.


Much like the Unicorn, we have not been
able to find any sign of its existance.

After extensive internet research, we still have not
found any information on "turn metal."

If any knows what this is please contact us at

Fuel Rail:
Of course stainless steel is better.

They do not have to be bigger. The injector pulse
needs to be longer to flow the needed fuel. Again,
test vehicles have run for hundreds of thousands
of miles on standard injectors.

ECM/Computer/Fuel Identifier:
The conversion kits work along with the factory
computer to make the needed adjustments
depending on what mixture of fuel is being used.

Again hundreds of thousands of miles
have been driven on E85 with no
reports of valve or head problems.

Ethanol is moonshine.....not ACID.

For those of you who are still skeptical:
Please view our companion to this video,
"Effects of E85 on Non-FlexFuel Vehicle"
an independent study performed by the
Lake Area Technical Institute.

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