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mike m. @ Jan 24th 2008 7:41PM
I am glad these companies are making it harder to smoke. I cannot stand smokers. I wish they would all just drop dead (with a few exceptions). They do nothing but kill themselves and more imortantly others around them. The more money smokers have to pay, the better.
Seoultrain @ Jan 24th 2008 7:44PM
.. and smoking affects you how?
While smoking isn't the smartest activity, people should be free to smoke without self-righteous people on their ass all the time.
AlexP @ Jan 24th 2008 7:49PM
Wow Mike, I wish you'd die.
While I'm a non-smoker, I won't complain if someone's smoking in his house, but I certainly wouldn't allow them to smoke in the environments I own. Hell, it's logical, and I don't have to tell anyone to do it, because they just do it.
The majority of smokers know they have a problem and won't force that problem down anyone's throat. If they go outside for a smoke they won't disrespect you if you don't follow them.
Chris Vitale @ Jan 24th 2008 7:49PM
Woah...Take a chill pill man.
Are you also upset because the fat people are hogging all the Jell-O at your local Sizzler?
mike m. @ Jan 24th 2008 7:55PM
Smokers are inconsiderate, and I guess none of you have been educated anywhere decent, because secondhand smoke (smoke that others inhale from someone's cigarette) is much worse for you than regular smoke. For every minute you inhale secondhand smoke, its a minute of your life expectancy.
Reader @ Jan 24th 2008 8:07PM
Oh please, I can show you one of the oldest and most comprehensive studies from the WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION that says secondhand smoke never hurt anyone. Don't start calling people ignorant when they have evidence to back up their opinion.
Alcohol and cell phones both cause more innocent deaths than smoking, so maybe everyone that has a cell phone should go and die. Why don't you try to gain a little perspective on the world, Mike, it'll do you good.
Seoultrain @ Jan 24th 2008 8:17PM
"For every minute you inhale secondhand smoke, its a minute of your life expectancy."
So where were you "educated" so well that it leads you to believe such simplistic, propagandistic garbage like that? Education is no substitute for common sense. Not to say that I'm a high school dropout...(UC Berkeley, Go Bears!)
And to say that smokers are inconsiderate is a foolish generalization. Almost all smokers I know excuse themselves when they smoke, and always ask if I mind.
As for second-hand smoke, it is harmful, but walking behind someone smoking for 2 minutes is not going to have any kind of measurable effect. Now, parents who smoke in front of young children are very irresponsible, but otherwise, second hand smoke has been blown totally out of proportion.
Gregg @ Jan 24th 2008 8:46PM
Have to assume. Mike, that you are kidding. Otherwise, you are a turd. And that is from someone who would rather die than hate you.
Smeagle @ Jan 24th 2008 9:22PM
I am a smoker although I have attempted to quit several times. It's a difficult thing to explain to non-smokers, actually its a difficult thing to explain to myself, why I feel the need to adversely affect my health and pay for the privilege.
I don't think I'm alone in saying that I wish cigarettes were banned outright. If they weren't easily available, nobody would smoke and the world would be a better place.
This sort of thing however, making it harder and harder for people to smoke doesn't help anything. In my state you can't smoke in nightclubs anymore, hell you can't even smoke under covered outdoor areas. People still smoke though, we just feel a little more ostracised and resentful because we are forced to go outside to do so.
Anyway, the lack of ashtrays in cars is of concern particularly here in Australia where bushfires are commonplace. There will always be an element that smokes while driving and if they have nowhere to put the butt, it's asking for trouble.
chuck @ Jan 24th 2008 9:31PM
@Reader
the WHO itself says the 1998 study results have been misrepresented. Also, the report did not say that second-hand smoke "never hurt anyone. What it did say was the cancer risk was 16% greater for those exposed to secondhand smoke - the issue was the margin of error of the study was large.
http://www.who.int/inf-pr-1998/en/pr98-29.html
All other reports back the risk of SHS and it is fact that SHS contains harmful chemicals.
http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/Factsheets/SecondhandSmoke.htm
Whatever the risk actually is, the concern of exposure expressed by non-smokers is a fair and honest one.
Having said that, I agree MikeM. statements are way out of line. There are much bigger and better understood problems in the world.
manner @ Jan 25th 2008 4:20PM
Gee, I smoke. Outside. I think we should put really high taxes on potato chips, soda pop and all the other junk foods the more money the better! I suppose you have no habits of your own Huh? are you overweight, pick your nose, drink alcohol? cocaine? I don't like those things but I don't wish anyone dead. What goes around comes around
sexy dc diva @ Jan 25th 2008 3:55PM
you are just as dumb as you sound !
sexy dc diva @ Jan 25th 2008 3:54PM
you are not going to live long any way so why should you care mike ...... if you dont want to breath second hand smoke . stop breathing !!!!
leah @ Feb 1st 2008 11:45PM
to mike m.
mike, who would those "few exceptions" be? your mother, father, sister, brother, or perhaps your best friend? Just because you don't know me or care about me, I should drop dead? Well people I know do love and care about me, even though I smoke. I HATE to smoke but unfortunatly I HATE not smoking. I am simply addicted. And on another note regarding those few exceptions: are they killing others with their smoking like you suggest I am. I am not a killer. Please consider my words and yours carefully. Thank you
Peg Leonard @ Jan 25th 2008 4:29PM
Just remember how much smokers contribute to the tax base of your state - do you wanna pick up the deficit if smoking becomes illegal and are not sold in your state? How about this - are you equally offended by drug users, which is illegal in all states, who pop "drug butts out the window" or do you like to catch that draft?
Ivyevine @ Jan 25th 2008 5:28PM
Mike, now it's time to comment on all drug uses, including booze!! There are two sides to every story.
Jessy @ Jan 25th 2008 5:49PM
Smokers have the right to smoke!!!!!!! You dont like it too darn bad.
Wait till groups of idiots tell you sex is allowed once a month.
LEAVE SMOKERS ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone has rights and I didnt give ANYONE permission to take away my rights or speak for me.
You live your lfe and smokers will live theirs.
wambatz @ Jan 25th 2008 6:08PM
Gee What a totaly reasonable post ! Crafty as all those programs to increase the butt tax, therbye decreasing the numbers of smokers, while at the same time passing new entitlement programs to be paid for by the tax that wont be there if the new tax on butts actually works!
Of course if you don't like smokers, they should probably be exiled or something huh? We are after all our brothers keeper, are we not?
wambatz @ Jan 25th 2008 6:08PM
Gee What a totaly reasonable post ! Crafty as all those programs to increase the butt tax, therbye decreasing the numbers of smokers, while at the same time passing new entitlement programs to be paid for by the tax that wont be there if the new tax on butts actually works!
Of course if you don't like smokers, they should probably be exiled or something huh? We are after all our brothers keeper, are we not?
hodge @ Jan 25th 2008 6:49PM
Mike,
Let's clarify. I smoke, and I vote. I had a long, drawn out response and decided on this. Cows produce more methane gas than second-hand smoke. Cars and trucks produce more toxins than second-hand smoke. Both are in the air WE breathe and can kill innocent bystanders (the Amish come to mind). Get over yourself and think. The solution is easy. Kill all the smokers, all the cows, and start walking; or live in a bubble. It is what it is and unless you are in a position to change it STFU.