• Jan 17, 2008
Laugh if you must, the wares that CHAMCO were showing off at the Detroit Auto Show were certainly a lot more humble than what you'd find at Lexus. China America Cooperative Automotive is seriously considering bringing pickup truck to the United States that they've retained the services of Steve Saleen to help guide them through the federalization process. The goal is to have the vehicle on sale here by 2009. Styling-wise, CHAMCO's un-named truck isn't going to win any EyesOn awards, but at $13,500, who cares? Besides, it could have looked a lot more grotesque, but it's not entirely a toad.

The equipment levels will meet market expectations, with power steering, windows, locks, and mirrors. Not a cupholder in sight, though. Materials inside the Anony-Truck will have you reliving the glory days of 1985, when truck interiors were seemingly blow-molded on the same production line as 2-liter soda bottles. Power comes from a 2.7-liter four cylinder serving up 150 horsepower and 180 lb-ft of torque through either a five speed manual or four speed automatic. Chortle now, but keep in mind another automaker from Asia that got its start with cheap little un-named pickups -- Toyota. For CHAMCO, it could be a smarter entry point than cars, anyway. The Ranger can only carry on for so long, and everyone else has pushed up the size and price of their once-small trucks.

[Source: Pickuptruck.com]



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      • 7 Years Ago
      Considering the quality of the Chinese vehicles, loading the new pick-up with a bag of sand will probably cause the entire back-end to collapse and separate from the body.
      • 7 Years Ago
      epilonious, so if that is the case how come we have such a huge trade deficit with China? I guess global economics sometime works just one way!
        • 7 Years Ago
        We have a trade deficit with just about everybody, it just happens to be that China is one the largest exporters in the world for just about everything.

        And you do realize that we might have a trade deficit, but that doesn't account for the fact that we have ownership over a lot of those Chinese companies right?

        Like, if we buy 5 billion worth of Dell computers from China, but Dell owns 50% of that factory, it'll still show up as a $5 billion trade deficit even if Dell just paid
        themselves.

        Anyways, China will import more and more American stuff as the years go by. The real problem is that America doesn't really make an awful lot of stuff at all right now, so what exactly do you expect the Chinese to buy from us other than Buicks and Boeing jets? They're kind of limited in what they can buy from us you know.

        btw, China just happens to be our biggest deficit partner, but we run insane deficits with lots of countries-China just happens to have 1.3 billion people in it and is a HUGE country-but if you combined all the tiny little countries we run deficits against it'd be pretty massive too, just look on your clothes, a lot of them are made in Sri Lanka or Vietnam-do you think the Sri Lankans buy a lot of American goods?

        Honestly we need to focus on the stuff we're the best at-making Boeing more competitive than Airbus, making our Buicks even more beloved by the Chinese, etc. Trying to beat the Chinese in how cheaply you can make a sweater is idiotic, because you're just going to end up making our sweaters cost $100 each while no other country will buy anything we make because our crap is 10x as expensive as the stuff China makes. You need to use your technological advantages to make stuff that you're the best at making-like airplanes, cars, etc. That way you're not wasting your manpower trying to compete in sweater making, or dvd player assembly. Do you really want the United States to be a huge sweater exporter? Would you, or anybody you know, ever be willing to work for minimum wage sewing for 10 hours a day? If not, then stop whining and get cracking on manufacturing stuff the rest of the world will actually want to buy from us. Sitting around bashing China for actually making stuff on the cheap is idiotic, the Chinese are just working hard making what they can, and trying to improve their technology so that one day they'll be able to make better stuff and maybe not work for 75 cents an hour making furniture, or knitting sweaters, or socks or whatever. And it's better that we spend our time working on a $1 billion airplane that we can then sell to China, than to make our citizens sit around trying to knit socks to export.

        Seriously, people need to take economics lessons-countries benefit the most from making what they're the best at making (cost/technology wise). In this case, we are NOT the world's best sweater manufacturing country-we don't have the massive clothing manufacturing facilities, so it makes no sense to suddenly go and waste tons of money trying to build them, just so we can make clothes that end up costing 10x as much and not being any better.

        The only real way to fix the deficit is to invest a LOT more in high tech stuff that we have an advantage in to export.
      jw
      • 7 Years Ago
      I INTERVIEWED WITH THIS COMPANY AND THEY ARE VERY UN -ORGANISED..THE SAID 2 VEHICLES A TRUCK AND SUV WILL BE BUILT IN MEXICO AS A CHINESE PRODUCT AND DISTRIBUTED THRUOUT THE US..THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD HAVE THIS PRODUCT FOR SALE BUY THE END OF 07!!THEY STILL DON'T HAVE A PLANT AR DEALER BODY TO SELL THEM. THIS IS GOING TO TAKE ALOT LONGER THEN THOUGHT!!AND BY THE TIME THEY GET IT DONE THERE WILL BE NO PRICE ADVANTAGE...SORRY BUT THERE GOES THE ONLY EDGE THEY HAD!!! PASS
        • 7 Years Ago
        @jw
        You can always tell when a National Weather Service forecaster replies to a post...
      • 7 Years Ago
      I would definitely praise and even be the first in line to get one since NOBODY else in this country can produce a compact pickup. I have absolutely no need for a huge gargantuan F150 with a gas hogging V8, no matter how cheap it is, nor any other pickup in that size. I would say the Ranger but we, somehow, are the only region that does not get an actual 4 door Ranger.

      This reminds me of my favorite pickup, or SUT (Sports Utility Truck) as they called it, Mitsubishi Triton that I owned when I stayed in Malaysia for a few years. I really miss that pickup and wish I was able to bring it over here. It had 4 wheel drive, a strong 2.5L I4 Diesel with common rail injection, 6 speed manual, and very comfortable seats with a comfortable but sporty ride.

      The only truck offered here that even remotely comes close is the Toyota Tacoma. I really don't fancy spending almost $30,000 for a small-midsized pickup.

      If this does come here of course I will inspect it and test it through the ground while comparing to the Mitsubishi Triton. I bet it would be cool if it was moddable with Saleen parts.
        • 7 Years Ago
        the GM equivalent variants are all garbage, fragile, and do not even come close to what I am looking for. They purposely make them junk so you are more tempted to get their gargantuan Silverado. Of all domestic compact pickup trucks, the only one that came the closest was the Ford Ranger.

        I am also not afraid to try a new competitor to the US market. I don't have hang ups about if it's made in China or "not supporting American workers". I welcome new competition. if it takes the Chinese to make the NA automotive industry finally get it then so be it. Any other hang ups that most have are totally irrelevant. This will save me the trouble of importing a Mitsubishi Triton to the USA and having it regulated for NA standards.
        • 7 Years Ago
        My MSRP is from the KBB website.
        • 7 Years Ago
        "There's no real point to actual compact trucks anyway in the US market, why do you think they don't exist? =) It would hardly be fitting to have truck balls on something with a 4 banger or even a v6~"

        Hardy, I hope you were being sarcastic.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Tacoma MSRP for the double cap 2x4 starts at $23,225 with an invoice of $21,100. Not exactly $30k, and I'm pretty sure that $23k for the Taco gets you a lot more than $13k does in that knock off.

        There's no real point to actual compact trucks anyway in the US market, why do you think they don't exist? =) It would hardly be fitting to have truck balls on something with a 4 banger or even a v6~
        • 7 Years Ago
        You can get a 4dr Colorado with an I4 and manual transmission.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think there is a market for a true compact truck. There are many people who want a truck for light hauling but don't want or need a mid-size While I am not a fan of the A-BAT styling, I think Toyota is on to something. Mahindra is also planning on selling a small diesel pick-up in the USA. Their tractors sell fairly well I would expect their trucks to as well.
        • 7 Years Ago
        A V6 G8 sport "truck" may actually suit your needs. Plus it'll be a spirited vehicle to drive.
      • 7 Years Ago
      to Frylock350

      i understand these problems. but just give people time and chance, then things will improve, i think after the scandals they have learnt a hard lesson. if things can work out for japan, then why not china ? it took thirty years for japan to wipe off the quality stain mark.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Exterior style is nice. Interior style is similar to old striped down entry level pickups. However the engine seems quite small fot the size of this truck. I'd expect this engine to be in small 2 doors pickup Ford Ranger sized and not Ford F-150 sized. The price is good but then you can get a striped down american pickup with bigger engine for the same price. Last chinese pickup crash test I saw, the steering column "killed" the dummy when it shot upward.

      Point for trying but I'll pass.
        • 7 Years Ago
        This Chinese truck is smaller than the Ranger, and WAY smaller than the F150. That engine should do it fine.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I'm in the market for a 3rd car which is a pickup....I would def buy this car instead of dropping more for there rest of the trucks out there....

      the resson most pickup trucsk today caost so much is due to havin them do double duty...half of them are used for their purpose built intent and the other half is everyda drivers...but for me that just needs a pickup truck to haul stuff around when I need to, this makes the best buy..
      • 7 Years Ago
      I can see people lining up around the corner for this, all that matters is that it is cheap. Helping Chinas economy while destroying your own.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Interesting isn't it that the likes of GM, Ford, HJ Heinz, Alcoa and countless other American companies all have truly massive investments in China. Perhaps you would prefer them to pull out of China to purely concentrate on your own domestic market?

        Sorry, noone has their cake and eat it too in the business world.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ah, I love people with no understanding of global economics.

        1. There are thousands of US businesses (google, yahoo... GENERAL MOTERS to name a few) that have set up in China to take back most of this money we are pouring into their economy. Also, giving them money means we help them generate a middle class who want things like Buicks... and tend to work higher-pay jobs that will make Chinese goods more expensive and less desireable based on sheer cheapness.

        2. They aren't stealing jobs. I don't know many Americans clamoring to hand-paint wal*mart quality crap for 14 hours a day at about 30 cents an hour. It's a big deal for the Chinese because they would rather do that than subsistence farm.

        3. NO COUNTRY expands that rapidly without having a bigass recession/correction. Remember when Japan was supposed to be buying up America and taking over the world? Then the 80's happened and now one yen is basically worth a penny.
        • 7 Years Ago
        why are you saying it ?

        chinese people are going crazy for ford and gm in china. they are buying gm and ford like fresh meat.

        so are they destroying their own economy and support american economy ?
        • 7 Years Ago
        Does it have crumple zone the same size as the cab?
      • 7 Years Ago
      Building up the chinese is th single dumbest thing anyone can do. Not only have we exported our dirty factories to chna who has no EPA, there using up precious resources we need. Mainly oil, gold, and silver. In the short term we're profiting, but ultimately its shooting ourselves in the foot. Saleen is a greeding, unAmerian P.O.S.

      Why would anyone take a chance and spend 14k on an unproven, questionable quality chinese truck that may or may not be around in 10 years. Anyone remember daihautsu? Sterling? Yugo? etc., it takes more than a cheap price to compete here. Fiat group, one of the largest companies outside the U.S. doesn't even sell cars here! That should tell you something.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You obviously show a high amount of ignorance and a very closed mind.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Ford should keep pumping out the Ranger. Maybe even offering a striped down cheap version with a 4 cylinder with a stick. The Ranger is a truck that stayed around so long it maybe back in style again. I think Ford would be foolish to drop the Ranger now.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ford does make a stripped down Ranger. I own an 04 4x2 4cyl 5 speed with no carpet, vinyl seats, power nothing and no cd player. Thankfully it is black so it's not as easy to confuse with a Napa parts runner.
        • 7 Years Ago
        "The Ranger is a truck that stayed around so long it maybe back in style again. I think Ford would be foolish to drop the Ranger now."

        That's an excellent point. Seriously - Ford could start a new marketing campaign for the Ranger playing up its affordability and its status as the only vehicle in its class, and it would probably start selling like nuts again.
      • 7 Years Ago
      China America Cooperative Automotive? Good thing they didn't go with the true acronym instead of CHAMCO. (Can you tell I'm toilet training a toddler?) This looks an awful lot like the Chinese version of the Subaru Baja, which is an awful thing to model yourself after.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Hahaha! I didn't make that connection - that's priceless!
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