We've been hearing about Honda's upcoming clean diesel for quite some time now, and the automaker was kind enough to show a cutaway of the i-DTEC clean diesel for us at the 2008 Detroit Auto Show. Expect to see the engine appear first in an upcoming and unnamed Acura product around 2009 - but while you may have to wait over a year for the engine, you can see some cutaways of it right now in our photo gallery below. Click past the jump for some brief commentary on what we learned about Honda's i-DTEC clean diesel in Detroit.
Up top, we find centrally-located injectors that are surrounded by four valves - no surprise. Note the extremely tight valve angle, and the roller-equipped rockers that enable this geometry. Valve lash is controlled via the small plungers that appear on the outside perimeter of the head, opposite the valves.
The common rail for fuel is shown at the bottom of this photo, with individual feed pipes to the injectors. We are currently unaware as to what injector technology is being employed by Honda, but various presentations by Denso have us believing that it's likely piezoelectric technology, with multiple pre- and post-combustion injection events utilized to reduce emissions and noise.
The bottom end is smaller than what we're used to seeing on diesels, but then again this isn't a 6+ liter monster intended for a heavy-duty pickup. The piston skirts are considerably longer than what we'd see on a spark-ignition engine of this size, and the top piston ring is located quite some distance from the piston crown (this improves the strength of the piston and helps prevent the ring from getting pinched in its groove during the incredibly high peak pressure of diesel combustion).
Shockingly enough, we saw no evidence of variable-vane technology employed on the turbocharger. Perhaps this is intended to reduce cost?
An electromechanical exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) valve is used to regulate the amount of exhaust gas that is allowed back into the intake manifold. Such gas is inert; when combined with the intake charge during part-throttle operation, it helps reduce the amount of free oxygen in the combustion chamber. This, in turns, helps reduce the formation of oxides of nitrogen (NOx) - one of the nastier by-products of diesel combustion.
Tucked underneath the intake manifold is the EGR cooler, which, as the name implies, takes the hot exhaust gases and cools them considerably before recirculating them into the intake manifold. Diesels employ far greater volumes of EGR than do gasoline engines, so cooling becomes important to avoid excessively high charge air temperatures.
Typical for modern diesels, an electronically-controlled throttle butterfly is placed in the intake tract. It's not for controlling the engine's speed, however; instead, it creates a bit of vacuum to help draw EGR gases into the intake manifold.
Immediately after leaving the turbocharger, exhaust gases are subjected to an oxidizing catalyst to turn hydrocarbon and carbon monoxide emissions to carbon dioxide. Particles that make it through the oxidization process are captured by the particulate filter. This particular filter shows no provisions for a burn-off mechanism; we're not sure if this is a production-intent design and how maintenance-intensive the device may be.
This downstream emissions device would appear to be a lean NOx storage catalyst, which is employed to capture, store, and reduce oxides of nitrogen before they enter the atmosphere. NOx is stored during lean modes of operation; on occasion, the engine runs rich to provide the catalyst with an opportunity to reduce the nitrates to inert nitrogen.
According to manufacturers and suppliers, this approach makes sense on small diesels where the fixed cost of a complex urea injection system is cost-prohibitive. At some point, engine size (and thus catalyst size and cost) increases to the point where urea injection is cheaper.













Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Omer @ Jan 14th 2008 3:42PM
possibly a 2009 TSX with 4cyc turbo diesel with SH-AWD... oh I can't wait.
Atropos @ Jan 14th 2008 4:05PM
They need to call this the 'cleasel'.
epilonious @ Jan 14th 2008 4:10PM
I appreciate that two of the things they added to the cutouts were the emissions control mechanisms. Honda appears to be shouting "It won't be sooty, dangit!"
I thought that in some cases you could tinker with the exhaust gas temp to start the burn-off with the particulate filter. Then again it might just collect in a drum like used toner on a printer...
Kotse @ Jan 14th 2008 4:14PM
I'd bet it'll come out first in the MDX (versus X5d)...then the Accord (versus 335d).
Tony C @ Jan 14th 2008 10:07PM
Umm... No dice there on the MDX, unless Honda's upgraded the mechanicals on the i-DTEC, like the grafting of two more cylinders. The one currently on display is 2.2L 4-cylinder cranking something in the neighborhood of 175 horsepower and 320 lb/ft torque.
In Europe, it's supposed to shoehorn into the new Civic Type-R hot hatch. Given that it's coming to the US in an Acura and the RSX is dead, the next logical transplant would be into the TSX. On a whim, I'd have to say a dark horse contender is Acura's already-turbocharged (and only vehicle in their stable with turbo) RDX to improve its lackluster mileage numbers.
Guenther @ Jan 14th 2008 11:12PM
This is a 2-liter class motor, totally under-sized for the MDX or to go toe-to-toe with the BMW 3l.
At some point Honda promised a 3L V6. When that finally appears, it'll be a different story.
Saluki @ Jan 14th 2008 4:18PM
Kotse - Do you think there is a SINGLE PERSON who is going to cross shop a 335d with a Honda accord?
Kotse @ Jan 14th 2008 5:10PM
Well, yeah if you're shopping soon for...4DR SEDAN DIESELS!
Kotse @ Jan 14th 2008 5:25PM
Coming from someone who grew up driving diesels (Mercedes Benzes, BMW's Isuzus, Nissans, etc) like me (thanks to my old man back in the old country)...HECK YEAH!
chairman @ Jan 14th 2008 4:25PM
Gimme Gimme Gimme. Drop it into a wagon/hatch and I am SOLD!
psarhjinian @ Jan 14th 2008 4:31PM
Ok, now this is important, diesel fans:
This is a complex engine, not at all like your grandfather's Mercedes 300D. It will not run on straight vegetable oil and you probably won't be able to repair it in your backyard with a tire iron and a sledgehammer. Between the injectors, turbo and exhaust, this gives Honda's IMA hybrid system a run for it's money in terms of complexity.
I'd also like to draw their attention to the low horsepower figures on many small-displacement TDIs. The European sub-2.0L engines that people wax on about result in cars with 12+ 0-60 times. Torque is nice, but it doesn't tell the whole story.
Finally, I'd like to remind people that diesel fuel requires more crude and produces more pollution per _volume_ of fuel burned. By mass, it's not a whole lot more efficient than gasoline, partially because it _weighs more_ than an equivalent volume of gas.
I'm not slamming Honda's effort, or diesels in general only trying to remind diesel nuts that a modern CTDI isn't a trivial piece of equipment, nor is it necessarily more efficient or more powerful than other technologies _before_ we get eight pages of people dumping on hybrids.
It's an impressive engine, and I'd love to see it in the Element or Fit (my two favourite Honda models) especially because it achieves near-gasoline NOx emissions without resorting to urea injection. But it's not, by any means, proof-positive that hybrids are impractical.
epilonious @ Jan 14th 2008 5:12PM
This is the best engine to use if you like to beat on your car constantly and get consistent, fuel-sipping results.
Hybrids are 10X better if you are willing to play "the hybrid game" and pull all the tricks that save mileage like slow starts and decreasing speed up hills (in other words, if you don't want the people behind you to plot your untimely demise).
That being said, about 80% of the People I Know, would get better mileage with a diesel. So bring 'em over.
psarhjinian @ Jan 14th 2008 5:20PM
I consistently drive like a granny in the Saab: a turbo's effect on mileage is directly proportional to one's right foot and I can totally crater my mileage by flooring it. City mileage is rotten, but on the highway, it does really well.
I've found the same applies to any TDI I've driven. City mileage isn't great; highway mileage is fantastic. Since I drive mostly city, I'll take the hybrid option. I didn't get one (I have a Fit), though, because I couldn't afford a Prius and the Civic isn't versatile enough.
I've had a Prius rental three times, an Escape once (total mistake as I was going out of town on the highway) and a Camry once. The Camry was the most impressive--I slogged most of the way through urban traffic and the gas engine was off most of the time. Mileage was unreal for a car that size.
I'd like to see Honda offer idle-stop for this powertrain, perhaps with a cut-down version of IMA, but I don't think diesels respond well to that sort of thing.
Val @ Jan 14th 2008 5:28PM
You should also point out that not all of the oil in a barrel can be refined to gasoline, or to diesel. Diesel contains heavier hydrocarbons, while gasoline contains the ligtest. And what is heavier than diesel goes for asphalt, plastics and other products. It takes more effort to break down the longer hydrocarbons (diesel) into lighter ones (gasoline) than to simply produce diesel. So yes, it takes more oil to produce a barrel of diesel (about two times more) but this is simply due to the mixture in crude oil, and the most cost effective ratio. Diesel doesn't need much more enrgy to be refined. It seems that refineries in the US are outputing more gasoline than diesel, compared to european ones, due to the different demand. Diesel may produce more polution per volume, but the CO2 numbers per mile are in favor of diesel, and with particulate filters and urea it is pretty acceptable. The Euro standards also point out that the maximum amount of CO per km is 0.5g for diesel and 1g for gasoline, which probably means gasoline cars are allowed to, and put out more CO, which is toxic, even more so than NOx.
You probably know all this stuff, but for those who are wondering why would anybody push diesels forward, the answer is simple. A diesel engine is inherently more efficient than a gasoline engine, and has lower heat losses, even without the fact that the fuel has more energy ( the ratio of energy in the fuel and the energy produced by the engine is higher). A diesel is most efficient at low loads, while a gasolline engine is most efficient at fully opened throttle.
dan.sarkar @ Jan 14th 2008 4:33PM
So Honda has a clean diesel as well.......this gives me even more hope for the hot Mitsubishi Concept RA in that the tech is not just some kind of pipe dream.
Paul H. @ Jan 14th 2008 5:04PM
Put this in the current TSX and it might have swayed me from buying my MB C230 (which I wanted a diesel with in the first place). But way to go EPA and DOT for banning me from what I want to buy.
psarhjinian @ Jan 14th 2008 5:33PM
What you wanted to buy polluted too much. I know this is tough for people, but:
* Good Fuel Economy does not equal low emissions
* Low emissions do not equal good fuel economy
* Not all emissions are greenhouse gases
* Not all greenhouse gases are immediately harmul to people
* Carbon dioxide is not the only emission to worry about
Up until very recently, most diesels were (and still are) too dirty, especially for major urban centres. French and German cities are awful places to be during high-traffic times for this very reason, and it's probably the most telling indictment of low diesel taxes as a subsidy to their automakers that France and Germany--who otherwise have very good environmental laws--allow this to continue.
Victor @ Jan 14th 2008 8:33PM
Agreed. The push towards diesel in Europe was primiarly driven by cost concerns (lower VAT vs. std. petrol) rather than environmental concerns. With that in mind, petrol burners are cleaner than oil burners. But don't tell most europeans that; they're seemingly okay with soot on their buildings and in their lungs.
psarhjinian @ Jan 14th 2008 8:46PM
The reason VAT is lower on diesel is to provide a leg up for the diesel auto- and engine makers who are, you guessed it, primarily European. It's essentially is (or was, between engines like this and Toyota's newer C4Ds) a discouragement of Asian models, which were primarily gasoline-powered.
It's telling that diesel tax rates (and marketshare) are much lower in countries that don't play host to diesel manufacturers. Look at Switzerland, for example: diesel doesn't enjoy nearly the tax advantage it does in Germany, likely because the Swiss government isn't lobbied to heck by VW/MB,
Dad @ Jan 14th 2008 5:36PM
"but while you may have to wait over a year for the engine"
Why a year? Is it that hard to clean up their diesel????