• Jan 3, 2008
Bob Lutz has staked a fair amount of his and GM's reputation on the Volt. Even though he has said since the beginning that the Volt needs battery technology that isn't ready for the mass market yet, he also said that the Volt would go on sale by the end of 2010.

Rick Wagoner, though, in a 50-minute Q&A session with journos and bloggers, said that the Volt launch date is "fluid." Citing, again, the lack of battery technology that the Volt would need, he said, "We continue to put massive resources into production as soon as possible. 2010 would be great, but (we) can't guarantee that at this time. We'll keep you posted regularly on our progress."

GM critics -- like the Toyota rep who called the Volt "vaporware" -- will take this as a sign that GM is waffling. GM supporters will say, correctly, that this doesn't mean the Volt won't come out in 2010 -- it simply isn't assured. We would love to see the Volt appear tomorrow. Short of that, we'd love to see GM get the batteries it needs to deliver the Volt on time.

[Source: Detroit News]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      Am I the only one (who's not a hippie) thats excited about the volt? I hope its a Tesla competitor.
        • 7 Years Ago
        i'm very excited about the new diesels coming but the idea of plugging in my car each night and driving nearly silently to work each day is exciting too. if the cost was close between the two cars i could be tempted into a volt-like car.
      • 7 Years Ago
      There will NEVER be a Chevy Volt like the one that has been described; the Volt is being engineered by GM's marketing department... period.
        • 7 Years Ago
        So you're claiming that the pre-production battery packs that meet the exact Volt specs (16kWh, sufficient for 40 miles at 50%charge depletion and 200Wh/mile) that CPI delivered late last year to GM engineering are fake?
      • 7 Years Ago
      Tim -

      One troll quoting another troll who's already been discredited isn't really doing much to advance the discussion.
      • 7 Years Ago
      The world is flat because Toyota said so.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ummm.... not exactly. Toyota said that GM won't be able to get the car ready as the technology is prohibitive. This lends more credence to the fact that they might have been right, and I was leaning that way because it seems as if Toyota and Honda have done more research into batteries as is shown by their range of hybrid models. As far as the volt goes, it's vaporware up until the moment I can purchase one from a dealership, and I treated hybrid cars the same way till the Honda Insight.
      • 7 Years Ago
      GM needs to take their time and get it right the first time.
      I`m sure now days GM recalls mistakes they`ve made in the past. They can`t do a Vega or Oldsmobile diesel now.
      The volt I hope will be a great product for GM and the consumer. Lets not rush it.
      • 7 Years Ago
      GM can't afford for anything to go wrong with the launch of the Volt. Given the increase in CAFE and looming CO regulations, GM's entire fleet will have to be a derivative of the Volt or a micro-car imported from Korea, India or China.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Carlos, that is just another conspiracy story you've fallen for. Work on the Lithium-ion battery is going on at full speed and hopefully GM will have the Volt out in '10 like Lutz predicted. It will be a winner and Toyota will eat their words.
      • 7 Years Ago
      ICE hobby toys don't need active cooling but the real automobiles with ICE do.

      Laptops typically discharge at slow rate (0.5 C)and still overheats. Volt's pack is going to get discharged at 3C, six times faster than laptops. I am aware laptop Li-ion and CPI or A123 cells have different chemestries.

      Killacycle and other dragsters all use short bust (about 10 secs) at each run. However Volt will drain at about 3C constantly and it will likely to get hot like the laptops. Volt's team initial testing will probably start at slow speed testing. As they test with incremental speed, they might run into thermal issue. Remember, the plug-in pack can not overheat at top speed (120-150mph?). On top of that, it has to be tested in the desert (100+ deg)too just like every production vehicles.

      Hybrids use the HV pack in short burst fashion as well since the main source of power is the ICE and HV pack is to buffer peaks.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I know! They should just do what Tesla is doing with their transmissions and ship the first Volts with "disposable" batteries!
      • 7 Years Ago
      I knew it. Toyota said there is no technology out there to make the Volt and have it last 10 years or more like a regular car.

      I guess Toyota was right. Lithium Ion loses 20% of its charge every single year.

      Comeon GM are you sabotauging hybrdis like you sabotauged Turbos in the 70's and diesels in the 80's so the market gives up on them?

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_ion_battery#Disadvantages
        • 7 Years Ago
        We should all be asking WHY the battery tech is not here yet..

        In 'Who Killed the Electric Car" theres a part of the film where the owner of an industrial battery company that provided the batteries for the EV1 said that GM brokered a deal in which SHELL oil would buy out this battery company and all of its patents relating to automotive applications.

        Guess what SHELL did with it - nothing!

        I am not surprised that battery tech is 'not here yet' - its becuase there are very powerful forces in play stifling the technology.

        • 7 Years Ago
        marcus you're an idiot. how did you think that wikipedia would be an authoritative source on battery technology that HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED YET! even a psychic or tarrot card reader would be a more appropriate source to consult
        • 7 Years Ago
        So in your eyes the great Toyota has spoken so it must be the rule. Don't be stupid, we Americans usually know the ins & outs just as much as Japan does. Maybe you have not heard of the breakthrough A123systems has made with lithium batteries.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Marcus isn't a biased, Toyota-loving dick at all.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think a lot of "early adopters" who buy electric cars are pro-environment, and wouldn't care if they had to replace the battery in 5 or 10 years.

      By then, I'm sure costs will have dropped, and technology will have improved. Sell it as an upgrade -- now your car can go 80 miles/day instead of 40. Just like people upgrade their computer every 3-5 years. Just like batteries wear out in cameras and cell phones and laptops.
      • 7 Years Ago
      It wouldn't be the first time Bobus Maximus is contradicted by another GM exec. Sometimes it happens in the very same press conference, sometimes he does it to himself. Looking at GM's pathetic history of promises and no deliveries, I will believe the Volt exists when I see one and when it's possible to actually buy it. At least Wagoner has the good sense to back off a bit from the ridiculous things his PR flack says. In any case, given that GM hasn't a sweet clue how to build a decent conventional fuel efficient small car, what makes anyone think they will succeed with the Volt.
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