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Starting January 1st, 2008, just a few days from now, it will be illegal to smoke in a car with a minor (someone under the age of 18) in California. The "Smoke-free Cars with Minors" law covers parked cars and cars in motion, and the police can pull you over just to see if you are smoking with a child in the car. California joins three other states in banning smoking in a car with a child and the crime is punishable by a fine of up to $100. A 2006 Surgeon General's Report says there is no safe level for exposure to second hand smoke and children can't exactly defend themselves, but do you think this is an invasion of your personal rights or a good way to clean up the environment inside a car?

[Source: Record Courier, California Chronicle]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      "Starting January 1st, 2008, just a few days from now, it will be illegal to smoke in a car with a minor"

      But what if you are smoking pot or crack? Is that okay? If the minor refuses to smoke, can you still smoke? By definition you are not smoking with a minor in the car if they are not smoking ;-)
      • 7 Years Ago
      If you love Freedom, then you MUST watch this!!!

      America Freedom to Fascism (Full Video): http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=America+Freedom+to+Fascism+%28Full+Video%29

      We are becoming enslaved by “good” intentions.
      • 7 Years Ago
      ===
      1. We're under attack by the Democratic/Socialist liberals and the Neo Conservatives who would strip us of our natural rights, freedoms and very liberty in the name of peace and environmentalism. The United States is sliding into a fascist/socialist global state...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist

      When will they come for YOUR favorite freedom? Speak to freedom while you are still free enough to do so and NEVER surrender your guns! They are “We the people’s” last defense against the oligarchy.
      ===

      What, the freedom to kill your kids? I don't think that's in the constitution. We're talking about smoking in a tightly confined space. Never surrender your guns? Huh? I guess some people are just paranoid and think big brother is out to get them. They need a scapegoat to blame for everything as they feel they can do no wrong themselves.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I dont care what people do in there car...as long as the can drive correctly.
      • 7 Years Ago
      We're under attack by the Democratic/Socialist liberals and the Neo Conservatives who would strip us of our natural rights, freedoms and very liberty in the name of peace and environmentalism. The United States is sliding into a fascist/socialist global state...

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascist

      When will they come for YOUR favorite freedom? Speak to freedom while you are still free enough to do so and NEVER surrender your guns! They are “We the people’s” last defense against the oligarchy.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Has anyone ever walked down a sidewalk? I'm pretty sure all the second hand gas and diesel exhaust is easily as dangerous as second hand cigarette smoke. Will California make internal combustion engines illegal? (that's a rhetorical question)

      • 7 Years Ago
      We could return smoker's privacy to them and have social services remove their children if they want to smoke around them.
      • 7 Years Ago
      ==We're under attack by the Democratic/Socialist liberals and the Neo Conservatives who would strip us of our natural rights, freedoms and very liberty in the name of peace and environmentalism. The United States is sliding into a fascist/socialist global state==

      And yet you consider Bush's illegal wiretapping program, and the "Patriot Act" to be A-OK?

      _

      Do whatever you want to yourself. Thats your right.

      But once you start involving others thats is where it no longer becomes an issue of "individual freedom".

      Especially when it comes to harming children.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Yeah, "into the houses"! Social workers could do full work ups (hmmmm...environment not gay-friendly enough, lots of trans-fat food, OK load the kids into the bus...)
      What am I saying -- "could"? It's "WILL," after universal pre-K Hillary wins.

      "Teach your kids about Hillary, before it's '08!"
      • 7 Years Ago
      I see at least one person a day smoking with the windows up. As a former smoker, I still can't understand how someone can do that.

      As for the children in the car, that's an awesome law. I don't see why their young and still developing lungs should suffer for an unfortunate habit they parent's have fallen victim to. I quit after my second child (wife quit before the first) was born because I didn't want them growing up around cigarettes.

      Joe- Move.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Oh, yes please government sir boss. No sir I won't smoke in my car that I pay you for the privilege to operate and pay you for the privilege of buying with my own money sir government. No sir you can raise my chilluns however you see fit sir boss government. More lemonade sir boss?
      • 7 Years Ago
      GreyFlcn- Let’s get something straight right now.

      Bush is one of the worst Neo Conservative traitors! He as betrayed is oath of office by ignoring the Founder’s original intent of the Constitution. It was originally designed to SECURE (not grant) the natural rights and freedoms of “We the People” by limiting the power of the federal government and creating competition between the states. The intent is that if you do not like the policies of one state, simply move yourself, your business and your tax revenue to another. Competition creates innovation, increases quality and lowers costs.

      Nowhere have I EVER said that the fascist “UN-Patriot act” was anything but a federal grab for control over the personal lives of law abiding Americans. What did the “majority” left do to stop it? NOTHING! By the way… who’s children are you referring to? Yours or the governments? Are you so willing to give your children away to the mobocracy?

      Without Habeus Corpus, the Constitution is effectively DEAD!

      Joe- What does “killing your kids” have to do with this anyway? How are we (you) killing our (your) kids? Too much sugar, too much sunlight, too much water, too much TV, too much BBQ, too much… freedom? Who’s to say? YOU? Where do you draw the line?

      Who made you two comrades the Supreme Beings? You can’t simply take that power without a fight!

      Joe, as far as the guns are concerned, history taught us that millions of Jews would be alive today if they simply ignored Germany’s gun confiscation under the early Democratic-Socialist Nazi party. As soon as the guns were gone, the Jews were easily rounded up and placed into ghettos and we all know the end of that story. Or don’t you read or understand history? I know, you don’t think that could happen today. READ THE PAPER!

      Those who ignore history are DOOMED to repeat it! Don’t be stupid, step back and look at the BIG picture of what is really happening.
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