• Dec 14, 2007
Performance on par with a Porsche 911 Turbo was a well publicized benchmark for Nissan engineers when designing the new GT-R. Nissan even flaunted its achievement of a faster lap time for the Nürburgring circuit as proof positive. While the information coming out of the manufacturer's camp was impressive, it also came with a grain of salt. Nissan's own marketing fluff was biased, of course. What then would be the result of the same comparison without the obviously one-sided view? Being the curious automotive enthusiasts that they are, the Inside Line gang decided to pool their resources and get the new Nissan GT-R together with a Porsche 911 Turbo for a little playtime.

The playground consisted of German public roads -- the autobahn in particular. The game was chase; Porsche versus GT-R, with the GT-R as lead. The Nissan's confidence through corners helped it to frequently diminish the 911 Turbo's visage in its rearview mirrors. The Porsche created unsettling stomach-in-mouth moments on turns navigated gracefully by the GT-R. The smoothness of the GT-R was due to its more settled suspension and ATTESA all-wheel-drive system, thus allowing the driver to step on the throttle in an earlier phase of corner exit compared to the 911. In conclusion, it was determined that all the Nissan marketing hype had some merit after all.

While the Inside Line article greatly explores the everyday characteristics and feel of the GT-R versus the 911 Turbo, there's another IL piece that gets the two together on a racetrack. The resulting driver impression is much the same: the GT-R can go head to head with the best of the world.

Thanks everyone for the tip!

[Source: Inside Line]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      Competition is always good. Look at Lexus when it first came onto the scene, it was shun upon, but it's now one of the best and has kept the luxury segment somewhat sane. With the GT-R, it will make Porsche, Ferrari, and the likes, think twice before charging an arm-n-leg, when someone makes something as good, if not better than you, for 1/2 (or 1/3) the price.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I agree. Nobody likes to admit it, but one of the biggest reasons Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche had to step up their game in the late 80s-early 90s was a little car called the Honda/Acura NSX. It proved that supercar performance and reliability could be had in the same package. This little fact has been confirmed by almost every major Automotive publication.
        Nobody likes when the Japanese go shaking the tree. It's just because they've been known to embarrass all the big names before for way less money.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Good for Nissan - it may have taken a while for the GT-R to return but it sounds like it was worth the wait. With this new GT-R on the market, the competition should (or will have to) improve as well. Good for all of us.
      • 7 Years Ago
      If this was a perfect world, there would be a Cayman Turbo with 4WD and that can eat the GTR for breakfast
        • 7 Years Ago
        and our farts would smell like apple pie too
        • 7 Years Ago
        guess it isn't...
        • 7 Years Ago
        i think he meant cayman turbo, (not cayenne)
      • 7 Years Ago
      Who cares? I'm not buying their cars, I'm buying MY car.

      (no, I can't afford a GTR. But I'd definitely buy one ahead of a 911.)
      • 7 Years Ago
      The biggest difference between the two is the Porsche will be racing in North America next year. It'll be easy to wonder if Nissan has something to hide when they don't show up to beat the 911 on its own turf in ALMS and Grand Am.

      It's very sad, it would have been something to see. Hopefully in 2009.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I agree to an extent. The 911 turbo is a beautiful vehicle, but the GT-R isn't that ugly. Either way, like LS7 says, the performance advantage would go to waste on me.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I've said it before and I'll say it again: the Nissan Gt-R is an amazing piece that outperforms every vehicle in it's price bracket, and many vehicles outside it. Arguing styling is subjective, and therefore pointless. You'll either like it or you won't. It's Japanese, so I see no reason with comparing it's styling with a Porsche. It's an evolution of the previous GT-R design. These same people knocking its (functional) design would be up in arms if Nissan had styled a 911 clone.
      I will be buying one, just like many people will buy their 911s. And I no doubt will have fun with it, and probably consider what to do with the money I saved not buying a Ferrari or Porsche. That's a dilemma I'll enjoy being in. (And those who can afford a Ferrari or Porsche in the first place probably have loads more cash to confuse them anyways, so I've won no battles here either.)
      That said, all the cars in this performance range are amazing. Even though some of them are overpriced, imo. You don't need to knock one to make the other look good. If you've got the coin, you pick your choice and buy it, drive the wheels off the damn thing and enjoy yourself. Who here really gives a rat's ass about how other people feel regarding their own automotive preference anyways? I know I don't.
        • 7 Years Ago
        er... wait then we can't argue over the internet...how am I suppose to keep busy at work? disregard him fellas
        • 7 Years Ago
        thank you, im so sick of fan boys arguing til they die about which one absolutely has to be better than the other... why do they complain about increased competition, i will never understand. gtr beating a porsche for half the price should be good news for porsche fan boys since in order to compete, porsche will have come up with a model with worthy upgrades, or down the price... who knows maybe itll even be the cayman turbo awd people like to talk about... its simple economics, competition is good for consumers... idiots.
        • 7 Years Ago
        amen brother!
        • 7 Years Ago
        lol @ 2004m3driver. Yeah fellas, pay no attention to my last post. Argue away!
      • 7 Years Ago
      If I had the 70K to drop on a car next year the GT-R would be it, hands down. First, it's different. It looks totally different from anything else, and would be unique amongst a sea of 911 Carreras, BMWs, Audis, and Mercedes. Yet, it will turn just as many heads if not more. I could care less about the status symbol of owning a Porsche. Performance-wise, the GT-R has the best twin-clutch system yet developed, and the electronics will make this car easier to drive hard than any Porsche or anything else for that matter. The articles all say it...this car is the easiest to drive hard and is the most predictable.
      • 7 Years Ago
      WOW! The guy that went and bought a 911 turbo must be kicking him self that he could of went and bought a nissan and had plenty of money left over for a wing and a set of stickers.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Like so many of these "tests", why? Just how many of Autoblog readers really will get a benefit from which one of these realitivly small sales segment cars is faster? Yea, it's OK to know, but what about some tests of cars a major portion of the public might really be in a position to buy? This kind of thing where we see coverage of all these exotics doesn't really help the average joe, or Fred, or....I think most of us have a little problem poneying up the dubloons for this type of stuff. Oh yea, all you who "really need" this stuff jump on me now. After all, that's what we do here.
        • 7 Years Ago
        http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=123842

        Its not even below the fold of the same Insideline home page where the GT-R articles can be found.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Most people who frequent this site are passionate about cars. What instills passion more than pitting two fabled performance cars together for the first time?

        No, you're right, I want to hear about all of the new safety features on the latest Malibu fleet car. What's that? Child locks? Sweet. Keep those articles coming.

        BTW: Americans are getting wealthier every day, and the pricetag on their cars is going up every day. More people can afford these than you think.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Which would you rather read: articles with a comparison of a GTR and a 911 Turbo on the Autobahn and track, or articles with a comparison of a Ford Focus Coupe and a Chevy Cobalt Coupe on I-95 and the local parking garage? Surely the latter will be more beneficial to most people, but the former is certainly the more entertaining.
      • 7 Years Ago

      What needs to be kept in mind is that the Porsche has far better brand equity than Nissan. No matter how good the GT-R is, those rich enough to afford one will prefer the Porsche for the badge alone.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I'd venture that the $50,000 savings versus the 911 Turbo might be enough to sway some people.
      • 7 Years Ago
      My point is not about global happiness I'm talking about the drive. From everything I've read you would need the GT-R on a closed track to enjoy the full range of it's ability.

      I'm just saying I'd rather drive a Prosche than that fugly GT-R. This is an opinion though and you're entitled to your own.

      For the record I take my CBR to the track for race days when I feel the itch to go faster than the cops like me to on the street. I'll stick to bikes that run me $10k than a $40k ugly step-sister looking thing.
        • 7 Years Ago
        actually, from everything that *I* have read, the GTR is much more user-friendly and easy to drive fast than the 911 Turbo.
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