• Dec 10th 2007 at 8:04AM
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Despite the lack of a formal announcement (nor any real surprise), the Detroit News has the inside scoop on Ford's plan to close its Ontario plant after production of the Crown Victoria, Mercury Grand Marquis and Lincoln Town Car ceases, likely by the end of 2010.

The 2.6-million square foot facility currently employs over 2,400 workers and has built a number of models, ranging from the Pinto to the Escort.

Canadian Auto Workers (CAW) president, Buzz Hargrove, admitted to the News that, "There's nothing we can do to save St. Thomas," but we think there is. Convince Ford that the livery market is still dependent on the Panther-platform stalwart, despite New York City's vow to make all of its taxis hybrids in the next few years, and revamp the current car to be all things to all cops by fitting a new V8, a custom, police-friendly interior and anything else the boys (and gals) in blue could want.

[Source: Detroit News]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      Why does Ford build cars in Canada in the first place? Not enough unemployed Michigan workers to do the job?
      • 7 Years Ago
      More of this to come from Canada as it is now, due to the dollars drop, the most expensive place in the world for the Big 3 to build cars.
      • 7 Years Ago
      This is what we've been fed by the people who run things in this country. Physical labor isn't worth anything . . . only a college education.

      That is not what this country is supposed to be about. The original Henry Ford paid people $5 a day (CRAZY, right?) because he knew that a market economy could only run well if you had people with money in their pockets to buy things.

      The new way of thinking is that if 1 out of 10 have obscene amount of money, they'll lend at obscene rates to 7 out of 10 of us . . . and 2 out of 10 go hungry. Screw them, right?

      You shouldn't have to be a Cardiologist or an Engineer to send your kid to college. You shouldn't need to work three jobs to afford health insurance. It used to be that people who were willing to work hard could do well. Auto-workers are one of the few remaining groups of people who fit in that category.

      And we resent them? We resent them for working hard and getting a fair wage? Better to give MORE millions to Mullaly for his four months of work?

      Not having a degree shouldn't mean your life -- and your family's life -- is worthless.
      Thomas C.
      • 7 Years Ago
      That's it Ford Kill Mercury's #1 seller and 2 of the most popular fleet vehicles there has ever been.

      Only Ford would discontinue a vehicle that showed a 90.4% sales increase last month.

      Yet another BOLD move from the Blue Oval.
        • 7 Years Ago
        @Thomas C.
        Thanks for your support in the later entry. It's nice to know sombody "gets" it.
        • 7 Years Ago
        @Thomas C.
        I love it when people make assumptions based on a lack of knowledge.

        Here are the numbers

        Ford Crown Victoria
        Nov 2007 sales 5,170
        Nov 2006 sales 3,455
        sales increase 49.6%

        Mercury Grand Marquis
        Nov 2007 sales 4,702
        Nov 2006 sales 2,469
        sales increase 90.4%

        Lincolin Town Car
        Town Car
        Nov 2007 sales 488
        Nov 2006 sales 3,032
        Sales decrease -83.9%

        So what actually happened is that the Crown Vic continued to post sales increases as a fleet only vehicle while the Grandma cleaned up on all the retail customers. Between them they swollowed up virtually all the Town Car's customers but if you add them together overall the platform still saw a sales increase.

        Overall platform
        Nov 2007 sales 10,360
        Nov 2006 sales 8,956
        Thats over 15% sales increase for the platform. If that trend continues I wouldn't be suprised to see a stay of execution again. You can tell it is a Mercury because the Grandma has more lives than a cat.

        • 7 Years Ago
        @Thomas C.
        It showed a 90% improvement because they stopped selling it's twin. It's not a net gain.

        The Panther is an uncompetitive, cost-negative dinosaur that should have died a long time ago.
      Deb Ashford
      • 4 Years Ago
      I am a seperated wife of a ford talbotville employee--once the meeting took place on the closure and the wonderful buyout package they will receive--wow--more tempting then 23 years of a beautiful marraige--ford sure has brewed some fine individuals but also some not so fine--it is known that 43 percent more women at ford have suffered this wrath also--sad isnt it--the more money they get--the less important families are--shame on you ford workers
      • 7 Years Ago
      Is this a new Buzz Hargrove?

      This is the same Buzz who threatened to shut down Ford and GM if they offered the CAW the same deal the UAW already accepted?

      Perhaps Buzz got the message when GM threatened to close down Oshawa instead of cowering at Buzz's chest beating.
      • 7 Years Ago
      No, I say give the police nothing but hybrids also.
      • 7 Years Ago
      "Greed" of the workers? Is that really what we should focus on?

      Here's my view: This platform has made Ford millions over the years . . . the same basic underpinnings for decades, leading to pure profit, year after year. Here in NY, 80% of the cabs and ALL the police cruisers are Crown Vics . . . stylish Manhattan travelers, meanwhile, "call a Town Car." That's right -- it's become the generic name for a fancy livery car, even if a Caddy shows up.

      In the mean time, real actual blue-collar workers get a living wage to support a real actual family. Do we really believe that only portfolio managers deserve nice things? Should everyone else work at Target? Shouldn't a guy who builds a Lincoln be able to afford it, or does that thinking make me a Commie?

      (For Ford, having the plant in Canada means that Ford doesn't have to pay the crazy US health-care costs, no?)

      Besides the Mustang, these are the only models that Toyota could never duplicate. They are honestly and unabashedly American. They have a built-in guaranteed market. They are profit-machines.

      I just don't get it. Why kill these cars???
      • 7 Years Ago
      I feel that it would be a tragic mistake to let go of the panther platform. The Mercury Grand Marquis is one of the most distinguished looking cars on the road. People who buy it are not looking for a sports car. Its suspension has been refined over the years to make its handling acceptable for a car of its size. Perhaps making Watts linkage standard on the rear axle would improve things further. Also the option of another engine may draw a few more customers. The instrument panel though is overly plasticized. Metalicizing certain elements of it or at least allowing for variations in texture and color would add to its appeal and perception of quality and precision. Take a cue from the 1963 Monterey instrument panel. It's a work of art.
      Why let it go now after all of these refinements have been put into it? None of these suggestions would cost an arm and a leg. If there are problems with the assembly plant move it back to the states.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Great idea's I could not have said it better myself.

        The Mercury Grand Marquis is still one of the best road cars ever made in my opinion.
          • 7 Years Ago
          Thanks for your support. I wish there were more people like us who could cut through all the mileage and handling hype and see the real value this car represents. Lets appreciate it before it disappears with the last of body on frame construction.
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