• Dec 10th 2007 at 8:58AM
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Prior to the introduction of the new-for-2004 Mustang, Ford sold about 70-percent of its pony cars with V6s, while the remaining 30-percent came with V8s. That figure shifted when the retro coupe went on sale in late '03 and Ford was forced to bump up the output of its V8-equipped models to keep up with demand.

Over the last few years, 52-percent of 'Stangs came with the 4.6-liter V8, but rising fuel prices and the fact that enthusiasts bought early has brought that number back down to 45-percent, so Ford will be reducing the number of 2008 Mustangs it builds with a V8.

We're sure the excessive amount of special edition models helped fuel the initial fire for the V8, and we expect the eight cylinder engine to comprise over 50-percent of sales once again when a refreshened Mustang hits the market before the end of the decade. That said, we recall that Ford's newish 3.5L V6 is suited to rear-wheel-drive, and expect that engine or a version of it, coupled with a six-speed automatic, to land in the Mustang's engine bay eventually. After all, Ford promised that the 3.5L V6 would power 1 in 5 of its models by 2010.

[Source: Automotive News – Sub. Req.]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      How will you spin the story explaining that Mustang's V8 has been discontinued due to the CAFE standards going into place in 3 years? Face it, the hillbilly-hotrod is not going to be around much longer.
        • 7 Years Ago
        They said the same thing in 1993.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I wonder what the new stang will get as far as engines go once they come out with the Boss power plants.

      Personally, I would love to see the following:

      Base V6: 3.7L V6 @ 270hp (V6)
      Next V6: S/C 3.7L V6 @ 330hp (GTS)
      Base V8: 6.3L @ 425-450hp (Boss 390 or GT 390)
      Top V8: 7.0L @ ~550hp (Boss 427)
      SE V8: S/C 7.0L @ ~650hp (GT500)

      Then you have two solid V6 cars and two solid V8 cars available. With an extra high end model just for the dealers to price gouge, since they like doing it so much with the current GT500. It would also make sure they have factory engines that match or exceed engines from GM and Dodge....so they don't have to struggle to match HP and Torque numbers.

      It would also allow them to move the V8 model a bit more upscale, while still having a powerful and cheap lower end S/C V6 model that will appeal to people who want better fuel economy and lighter weight, while still having V8 power and torque.

      I bet Teens would buy it like crazy too. Lower insurance cost (because of the V6), plenty of power thanks to the optional blower, and easy to modify for more power with tunes and pulleys.

      I'm sure I'm just dreaming though. Ford is hung up on keeping the mustang the lowest price V8 RWD car out there and they refuse to step outside the box and try something new. They know they can keep selling mustangs as long as they keep it RWD, V8, and under $30,000....and that's all they care about.

      Unfortunately, that might not be enough if gas prices keep going the way they are. Not only that, but GM and Dodge are bringing out their own retro V8 pony/muscle cars. So Ford isn’t going to sell as many V8 mustangs. If Ford wants to stay on top of the pony/muscle car market they need to be more innovative. A supercharged V6 that can match or beat GM and Dodges base V8’s stock (or with simple mods) would be a great start, something that sets them apart. It worked for the GNX, a forced induction V6 could work for the mustang as well.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I was going by what the Boss engines are rumored to be. ~6.2L and ~7.0L I don't think displacement is such a bad thing if they do it right. The 7.0L engine in the corvette Z06 is powerful, compact, and gets pretty good gas mileage (no gas guzzler penalty, infact it gets better mileage than Ford's blown 5.4L). If ford does the same thing for their top end model I see no problem with that, especially since they sell less than 10,000 a year of that model. They need it to keep up with Chevy's N/A 500hp/ blown 650hp and Dodges N/A 600hp.
      • 7 Years Ago
      The new V6 should help quite a bit, and keep the performance high. This would be a good opportunity for Ford to make some improvements to its long in the tooth 4.6 motor. Cylinder deactivation, mild alternator hybrid, Direct injection. Yes it will increase the cost, but if you're a V8 shopper, you're usually dropping a 3000-5000 grand in toys anyway. How awesome would 22city, 29-32mpg hwy be? Not anywhere near diesel territory, but it would still be a 50% increase in the city, and make the V8 more appealing or at least not so scary for would be shoppers.

      My heavy Buick Park Ave w/307 Carb'd got 10litres/100km @ 75mph on the hwy, that also 23mpg, and better when I drove the speed limit (100kph) - So why can't a relatively light car, with better aerodynamics and far better transmission and technology as a whole, get better mileage?
        • 7 Years Ago
        the mod v8 is getting ditched for the brand new boss v8s that will be in the f150 also.

        all new from the ground up

        capable of much larger displacements, i know there has been talk of a twin charged 6.8 L with direct injection for the superduty f series making something like 700 lbs/ft

        the base motors wont be getting DI, turbos or that much displacement but they are designed with all that in mind from the factory. im expecting goodies like splayed 4 bolt mains and oil jet piston cooling


        oh yeah and you can expect 6 speed autos and manuals on at least some of the mustang powertrains
        • 7 Years Ago
        How about a 6 speed stick or 6 speed auto for the V8.
        No extra cost for the customer.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Manual, agreed. Auto, is it durable enough.
      • 7 Years Ago
      V6 Mustangs are poser cars.

      And who buys a Mustang for fuel economy anyway? That just isn't very bright.
      • 7 Years Ago
      if the 3.5 winds out like my 95 3.0 and get the gas mileage sign me up
      • 7 Years Ago
      Need further clarification on track times of live-axle vs IRS. A number of magazines, domestic and European ones, ran GT500 (500 hp) with live-axle against a Roush Mustang with IRS, LSD (420hp). All other things same, Roush was 2-4 seconds a lap faster. Also the drivers commented just how much more stable the Roush spec was because of the IRS and to extent LSD.

        • 7 Years Ago
        Let me guess, you watched Top Gear? :-/ Anyway, the GT500 comes with a LSD. I don't know where Clarkson got the idea it didn't.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Noidor, Paul P. is right, the GT500 does have LSD.

        Also the Roush doesn't have IRS.

        The Roush 'stangs have stiffer springs, sway bars, and dampners, that is the extent of the suspension mods. They also have a supercharger and larger brakes (than a stock GT, but about the same as the GT500). That list completes the modifications from a stock GT save for some aesthetics.

        The Roush is faster around a circuit because of said suspension difference, and it weighs less because it uses the stock GT aluminum alloy 4.6L while the GT500 uses a cast iron 5.4L engine. That big, heavy block is bulletproof and really designed for drag racing, not so much for road racing.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Well, If they can get the 3.5/3.7 V6 that has 265 horsepower from the MKZ/Taurus then that will def. be a winner - all this and keeping the price reasonable. I guess if you start putting in a 300 horse V6 then that would take away sales from the GT - but then again, how much more will that add to the sticker.
      My feeling is that the Dodge challenger and Camaro will be very popular at first, but once the novelty wears off, the sales will go down. Because there are a lot of people who are not interested in buying a big 6.0 liter V8 musclecar - esp. with the way gas prices are.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Some thoughts and corrections:

      1.) The latest Mustang came out in 04 as an 05 model year...article mistates.

      2.) Enthusiasts petitioned to have the live axle instead of the IRS because of less wheel hop during drag racing (cobra owners often switch from IRS to live)...

      3.) If you want a true sports car get a Lotus...this car is in a special category by itself: muscle car. Get ready to welcome back the retro challenger and camaro too! It's nice to have different types of "sports cars" to choose from: do you like the sound of a V8, or the rush of a turbo, or the feeling of a gocart? All different flavors of fun and speed!
        • 7 Years Ago

        why do people turn on lights when they know it will kill penguins?

        how can people be so selfish and drive to work?

        just turning on your tv is basically raping the rainforest!

        if we all just drive hybrids and poke smot all day the earth will thank us and the animals will be our friends!

        shut up hippy, go back to ABG and stop smuging up my air a hole
        • 7 Years Ago
        It's just sad....why do people have to be so irresponsible? Why would a company be so irresponsible? Why sell fleets of cars that you know are terrible for the environment, especially when you know you're perpetuating the problem by saying it's ok to mass produce such cars?
      • 7 Years Ago
      So with gas prices so high, V8 sales account for 45% of sales as compared to when gas prices were low, when V8 sales accounted for 30% of sales...
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think there is a chance we will eventually see the V8 Mustang go away. However we will continue to get V8 power from a turbo, supercharged, or twincharged version of the 3.5liter V6. IMO Mustang sales won't be hurt too much if said V6 gets 300 to 350HP.

      It also wouldn't hurt if Ford put the Mustang on a diet. I love my '06 GT, but it about 500lbs overweight IMO.
        • 7 Years Ago
        actually twin charging is proven, and has been used since the 80's (look up Nissan March Super Turbo)

        And the new VW Golf GT is quite impressive!
        • 7 Years Ago
        they would lose a lot of sales if they canned the V8 in favor of a turbo 6. Just harken back to the days of the SVO and probe turbo and you'll know what I'm talking about. No V8 option would lose them about 40% of the sales.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I didn't realize the V8 sales were such a high percentage. There seem to be a lot of V8s down here in Alabama but when I was in Maryland it was mostly V6
        • 7 Years Ago
        turbos are not and never will be lag free

        twin charging is very expensive, complex, heavy and unproven and as far as i know, ford has not spent a dime on it

        twin turbo with direct inject is another thing and that is coming very soon

        what i see in store for the mustang is this. there will always be a v8 but v8s will start at 450-500 hp. for lower power outputs, v6s of 300 hp and turbo v6s of 400 hp will cover the other power ranges.

        the v8 will still be available for those who dont think its a mustang with out 8 cyl and it wont hurt fleet mpg too much because it will only account for a small percent of overall sales.
      • 7 Years Ago
      For people like me that were curious what the mileage specs were on the various models, here they are (manual transmissions):

      Mustang (210-hp 4.0L V6) mpg:
      17 city, 25 hwy
      Mustang GT (300-hp 4.6L V8) mpg:
      15 city, 23 hwy
      Mustang GT500 (500-hp 5.4L supercharged V8) mpg:
      14 city, 20 hwy

      I'd say with the rather underwhelming performance and fuel economy from the current V6, it's no wonder people are buying the GT instead.

      And hey, once you're buying the GT, you might as well get the GT500 instead. Or at least that would be my thinking! :)
        • 7 Years Ago
        Have you the driven the V6? It is no slouch by any means. I had one for a rental and that thing was fast! I don;t remember the gas mileage being bad at all, even with me pushing it. My guess is, the V6 now is much more peppier than the old one. Therefore, it really isn't as punishing as the old V6, and people are willing to purchase more of them.
        • 7 Years Ago

        Those are the more realistic EPA mileage figures. I have an 06 GT and I'm getting 23MPG in reasonable driving conditions (going 65MPH with no AC)

        If you're getting 12 to 18 in a stock GT then you're not trying to save gas to begin with or there is a problem with the car. At 12MPG I'd say the driver is dropping the hammer a bit often. (not that there's anything wrong with that ;) )

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