Filed under: Government/Legal
Double dipping, NHTSA providing prizes for police to write tickets
We all know that the money that we drivers pay for taxes on the fuel we use is supposed to go to pay for the roads where we consume the fuel, right? Not so fast there buddy! Many of us at one time or another have also encountered law enforcement efforts that were clearly meant more for revenue enhancement than safety enhancement. Yes Livonia MI, we're talking to you! Does having five cruisers lined up beside a fast food restaurant picking off drivers going 3-4mph over the limit really improve safety on Middlebelt Rd?
It now appears that that those state and local police agencies have an extra incentive to write even more tickets. They can earn free police pursuit vehicles courtesy of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) and your fuel tax dollars. NHTSA's National Law Enforcement Challenge Award judges police agencies based on ticket counts, taking away points if they don't have a "no warning" policy. They also give bonus points for innovative methods such as camouflaging officers as tourists or Santa Claus. The top ranked departments earn free cruisers such as Hemi Chargers and Magnums equipped with cold air intakes and Borla exhaust systems.
[Source: TheNewspaper.com]
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Whistleblower 12:51PM (12/08/2007)
Cops turning into capitalist pigs!
Welcome to MetroPolice State.
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no_slushbox 5:54PM (12/08/2007)
Boycott Borla and Chrysler, I'm sure they lobbied for this to get some sales at all of our expense.
Rafal Ignatowicz 12:56PM (12/08/2007)
My friend got stopped in metro detroit area in a string of cars that was stopped by a chain of police vehicles standing on the side of the road. They were all going a little over the speed limit.
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T 1:02PM (12/08/2007)
I ride a zx12r and a hayabusa and it is rare that I stop for a cop(if I see them) that tries to pull me over. After 34 years of driving cars and bikes on the street, I firmly believe most speeding tickets are simply revenue boosters for local agencies and I would rather not contribute. In Pennsylvania as an attempt to stop local cops from setting up bogus speed traps, only state troopers are permitted to use radar for speed enforcement(or bothering citizens for revenue). Although not recommended for most, my "pin it and win it" policy has worked for me.
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adam 2:39PM (12/08/2007)
You're a moron.
cowboy bob 2:56PM (12/09/2007)
Been there, done that too. I'm way to old now, and drive stuff slower than a snail, but I know the feeling, and still remember. I don't think it's such a good idea of course, but.......
Whitie 1:04PM (12/08/2007)
OK, this will sound cynical and possibly a bit harsh.. but honestly, what did you expect? Our wonderful government is full of -sshole opportunists that look for ways to screw with us.
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Dog Rocky 1:05PM (12/08/2007)
Seriously - f**k that!
Writing tickets for going 3-4 over is bullsh!t.
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David W. 1:15PM (12/08/2007)
That is BULLS**T.
I live in Texas, and in Texas, the law is that on the highway, the far left lane of the highway is for passing only. So I don't see what the big deal is that I'm driving in a straight line, going about 10-15 miles an hour over the speed limit so long as I'm not weaving in and out of traffic or tailgating. I think it's MUCH more dangerous for police officers and state troopers to sit on the side of the highway with all of their lights off.
Tickets are SUPPOSED to be about the safety of the public, but speeding doesn't necissarily equate to driving unsafely.
Quick story: It was new years and I was driving back to my apartment from seeing my parents. The speed limit was 65 and I was doing probably 80 (in the fast lane.) I see a state trooper on the side of the road too late (he had all of his lights off) so I slow down and pull off at the next exit...fortunately I got a warning. The funny thing was, he didn't even say anything about me speeding...which kinda makes me think even some cops think the speed limits being enforced the way they are is just dumb.
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fm 1:33PM (12/08/2007)
disgusting! plain and simple. OUR tax dollar at work trying to set us up. It's like the NYC scheme, go to pick up a wallet on the ground and you get stoped. Ok one's more like entrapment the other is more of an abuse of power handing out tickets willy nilly. But its still disgusting
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EJ25RUN 1:43PM (12/08/2007)
&^%$ the Police.
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Emanuel 3:00PM (12/08/2007)
I 100% agree that this is bad. Treat us like ATM machines in the name of safety. BS!
Livonia is AWFUL! This is a nice place to live, however their police are the main reason i'd never live there. The police in this city are out to get you and look at you as if they dare to to so much as breath faster than your allowed and woop woop! Pull ur sh*t over!
My friend got a reckless driving ticket for entering I-96 faster than the posted onramp speed to merge with traffic. I dunno about anyone else, but when traffic is pushing 65, 70MPH and you enter the frwy GOING 35mph, much slower than traffic is an aggravation to traffic already on the frwy and a safety issue in itself.
I-275 and 7 mile=Livonia.. it also sucks. NO need for 5 officers to be lined up grabbing people on a 5 lane hwy because they are doing 75 in a 70.
Whats worse is these officers are not saints and break laws and will NEVER get tagged for it. Prime example is these think they are untouchable women beater/killers that tought how they can't get caught.
MemphisNET 1:45PM (12/08/2007)
Slow down. Nuff said.
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Whitie 2:09PM (12/08/2007)
You Sir are an idiot, nuff said.
MemphisNET 2:36PM (12/08/2007)
I'm an idiot because you can't control yourself? I don't like tickets as much as the next person, but have some common sense and self control.
adam 3:01PM (12/08/2007)
But how do you feel about your tax dollars buying unnecessary Borla exhausts and cold-air intakes for government vehicles?
It's one thing to advocate responsible driving in these scenarios, but blindingly allowing the government to abuse your tax dollars for silly purposes like this this is absurd.
mk 4:59PM (12/08/2007)
@adam...
it is even worse than that, it is giving them the cars. They just have the performance parts installed on them. It is much more than just buying the parts for the cars the department already has.
A cruiser or a few is a pretty big incentive for both cops (who wouldn't want a new work car, if you work in your car?) and the bean counters who then can use their budgets otherwise than buying new cruisers, AND they make the money from the increased number of tickets they write.
I got a window tint ticket the other day. The fine was 15$. The Court costs and other fees brought the total up to $70. I thought taxes already paid for government, including judicial operations?
It became abundantly clear that Law Enforcement Officers are being co-opted into being Tax Collection Officers, and that is supposed to be illegal, and is a huge impingement on freedom, and a conflict of interest for officers that work to serve the public, not their own budgetary interests.
adam 5:41PM (12/08/2007)
@ MK
While I agree, the system outlined in this article for giving the various departments new cars is ridiculous, a different system could be devised to provide departments with new cars for reducing crime rates, accidents, and generally increasing public safety. Would I like to see this? No, not really. It's their job, whether or not they have a new car incentive. But at least it's better than rewarding them for abusing their power to generate revenue.
However, adding the performance parts, such as the Borla Exhaust, to these cars is absolutely asinine regardless of what reward system they are following. It's blatant abuse of taxpayer money.
But... when these cars go on auction to the public down the road, they'll be a steal...
EJ25RUN 6:03PM (12/08/2007)
you are such a moron!
i hope that when the police get you going 46 in a 45, it gets on Autoblog so we can send you a dunce cap.
VP 1:47PM (12/08/2007)
How is this Sh*t even legal? Isn't this entrapment? Rewarding police for being money hungry pigs?
Can't the sh*theads at NHTSA give those free cars to the city with the least accidents/deaths something? Anything that is a little more qualitative.
Sorry for the language, i am just pissed when i read stuff like this.
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