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Peter Eriksson @ Nov 14th 2007 8:28PM
We dont need more horse powers or luxury cars.
We need PLUG-IN hybrids NOW!
* Plug-ins could reduce the average American driver's gas consumption by 85 percent!
* RAN is going to covert a Prius to a plug-in in less than a day. What's holding back the auto industry?
* The big automakers, despite their claims to be green, are lobbying heavily against increased fuel efficiency standards
* Readers and bloggers should learn more about what real environmental leadership looks like at RAN's blog: http://understory.ran.org/2007/11/14/ran-at-the-la-auto-show/
Mike @ Nov 14th 2007 8:33PM
What we need is for you ultra-liberal morons to piss off and stop pushing your political views on everyone else.
Tyler @ Nov 14th 2007 8:35PM
This post is about Jaguars, no need to add any smug.
Craig @ Nov 14th 2007 8:38PM
It's not a political position, it's an environmental one. What you don't realize "Mike" is that there isn't an infinite supply of oil on this planet. Once it's gone, it's gone. Then what are you going to use to fuel your 8 mpg, gas-guzzling SUVs and exotic super cars? You'd look pretty foolish pushing that down the road with nothing to fuel it.
Tsunami Racer @ Nov 14th 2007 8:48PM
yeah but plug in hybrids aren't fast, they're not sexy, they don't get you laid (by good looking women that shave their pits or eat red meat at least) and are mere appliances that should be sold to general consumers at Best Buy. there is a time and place for plug-in hybrids.
for those of us who care about driving, a jag you are with 420 horsepower is an emotional purchase. no one needs that much power, but it's nice to know you've got it if you ever wanted to ram a Prius with Obama08 stickers off the Golden Gate bridge...
Mike @ Nov 14th 2007 9:11PM
Craig,
It is a political view. If we really wanted to reduce the amount of fuel we use and the amount of emissions we expel, there are many other areas to go after than cars themselves.
Oversized homes that have become the new fad but aren't needed, commutes of 20+ miles each day to work, driving in gridlock which reduces real world fuel economy, etc.
Instead of hearing how every car that comes out needs to be left on the drawing board and replaced with (fill in your saviour technology of choice) powered vehicle, why don't these people focus on writing their congress person on doing something about things that are controllable now like making construction outfits finish a road project in a realistic time frame so we aren't increasing traffic (thereby reducing fuel economy) every day?
Nope, killing any interesting car is the answer and replacing it with an ugly ass Prius that you can plug in (and has magical technology that is still under realistic development), all while driving the thing 60 miles a day to get to work so you can heat and pay the mortgage on the 6,000 sq ft house for you, your wife and your two kids.
ckm @ Nov 14th 2007 10:35PM
I don't even know where to start.... Do you realize that the batteries used in hybrids are shipped around the world 3 times before they wind up in your Prius? Or that they are made with one of the most toxic materials around (nickel) extracted from a mine in Ontario that has killed of 30 sq. miles of vegetation?
I could go on, but I won't. Suffice it to say that posts like yours don't belong here. If you want to be environmentally responsible, buy a 25 year old Mercedes diesel and run it on veggie oil, don't buy an new car full of toxic waste.
And before you reply to me, you might want to take into account that I have actually been doing environmental work since I got a masters in environmental policy in 1991, way before yuppie fashion victims like you decided it was the cool bandwagon du jour.
testa di cazzo @ Nov 14th 2007 10:41PM
Actually, currently just looking at known reserves of oil that we have direct access to, we have about 1.2 trillion barrels of oil available, which would suffice for earth at current consumption for over 38 years. In addition to that, expected undiscovered oil rests at just over 1 trillion barrels. finally, "unconventional" oil (heavy oil, tar sands, etc.) are at over 1.5 trillion barrels of availability. That means that we have EASILY over 100 years of pretty guaranteed oil availability at current consumption rates. this information is all available according to the National Petroleum Council http://www.npc.org/
based on FACTS, oil will NOT disappear in my lifetime, your lifetime or the lifetime of anybody currently living on this planet. your position is NOT an environmental one - it is a PURELY POLITICAL ONE. don't try to claim that oil will run out and we'll be sitting with our 8mpg cars scratching our heads, because nobody living today will ever see that happen...at least not because of lack of oil supply.
HeyHuub @ Nov 15th 2007 3:20AM
Why don't you tree hugger go hug a tree and keep away fom our V8's.
Craig @ Nov 15th 2007 3:36AM
Mike,
I make my contribution to ensure that our planet doesn't go to pot. I'm not saying every car should be a Prius, but I'm not so negative as to call people who are aware of our role on this earth, morons. What good is that doing? Insulting people doesn't do any good, and doesn't solve anything. It's not a political issue, it's an environmental one... regardless what you say. It's because of people like you who are dividing this world up into little groups rather than bringing it together.
Willem B @ Nov 15th 2007 7:18AM
go away, hippie.
Peak oil is a good marketing strategy for oil companies.
oh, and that nickel factory in ontario that someone was talking about, is bs. that's a story from the 50's, and it's all been cleaned up, and only 1% of the nickel mined there goes into the Prius. The rest is used for other things...