• Nov 13th 2007 at 7:55AM
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Bad news V8 fans. The Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon won't be available with the 5.3-liter V8 that powers the new HUMMER H3 Alpha. Instead, buyers bent on getting their hands on one of the few remaining small-sized pickups will have to rely on either the Vortec 2.9-liter four or 3.7-liter inline-five for motivation until the 2009 model goes on sale late next year.

The story originated on a thread over at GM Inside News, and our man Mike Levine followed up with Chevy truck spokesman, Brian Goebel, who said that delay is due to "a cost and engineering issue that resulted in a decision to postpone the introduction by a few months."

[Source: Pickuptruck.com]

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      • 7 Years Ago
      Why a V-8????

      V-8, RWD, 6-sp manual, fairly light, simple, crude...sounds like classic muscle car but with the ability of grabbing 4x8 sheets of plywood at the Home Depot now and again.

      Ugly, but 300-ish HP and RWD isn't too bad.
      • 7 Years Ago
      my 430 HP 6.2 liter C-6 corvette get 20 MPG every day driving and 28 on road trips so a V-8 will get good milage.
        • 7 Years Ago
        my 08 vette is my 11th new corvette and i am not quoting the window sticker i am stating the MPG it get while i am driving it. with a V-8 in the truck it also can be geared for mileage.
        • 7 Years Ago
        My LS2 Vette gets great mileage as long as you shift early and stay out of the throttle.

        I'll do that for a few days to see how high I can get the average MPG and then I'll say...screw it, I bought this car for a reason and it wasn't for gas mileage! ;-)
        • 7 Years Ago
        Your Vette also has a very slippery body, weighs not very much, and _skips three gears_ on the first upshift. It's also unburdened by the need to tow boats and such.

        GM has played some very canny tricks to get the Corvette's fuel economy up. That these tricks do not work if you drive the car moderately hard isn't the issue--the Vette's highway and EPA numbers are an interesting fiction in anything other than a specific set of circumstances, perhaps as much so as the numbers a hybrid can put up.

        This isn't to diminish what GM's achieved--they've done neat work to make a reasonably economic sportscar--but the Corvette isn't nearly as fuel efficient as it's billed to be, and comparing it to the powertrain of the Colorado is disingenuous.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I was all excited there for a minute. I somehow read into this this that GM was going to redesign these dungheaps for 2009 but it's only for adding the V8. Dangit. Just what the world of $3/gallon gas needs: A small pickup with a 5.3l V8 in it. Maybe this is too radical, but how about a competitive design with a world class 4 banger/6sp combo making 175hp and getting 30mph hwy instead?
        • 7 Years Ago
        A small v8 in a small pickup may get better milage than you think. It's all a balance between feeding the appropriate sized egnine vs the work required to move the vehicle. It is no surprise that some small engine vehicles do not get significantly better milage than the same vehicle with a larger engine because the power produced by the motor at it's optimum efficiency may not be enough to accelerate the vehicle in a sufficient manner most of the time. Solution- push harder on the gas, which takes the engine outside the highest efficiency range. It's like two men running track. One guy is 5'5" with short stubby legs, and the other man is 6'8" with long legs. To maintain the same speed the little guy has to run faster, using more energy. Same with engines. The problem is that it is hard to keep your foot out of a vehicle with more power, and the RATE of acceleration is what uses the fuel faster. Torque, horsepower, and engine design, along with hundreds of other factors, ( variable valve timming, 4-8 cylinder shutdown, etc. etc.) will enter into the equasion as well. But, when the "race" is all said and done, usually the "big" guy has less wear and tear, as well as more races left in him. (RPM, piston velocity, equal engine wear ratios). Used right, an engine sized right for the job is the best solution. Bottom line- GM knows, and WE know, the H3 and the Colorado are simply underpowerd right now. Fix it, or drop it.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Not sure I'd call a 305 a "small V8" It's no big block, but it's still pretty large. I don't think this truck has the chassis or weight to be able to handle what that V8 can do, its a waste to put it in a compact truck.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Agreed with P to the C on this one. Why doesn't Chevy put a 6spd auto in the Colorado and get better efficiency out of that crew cab? I know I might be in the minority but I'll only buy the Colorado if it gets around 20mpg city/24mpg highway or so, and I can't see it doing that with a V-8. Leave it alone, but replace the 4 spd automatic with a 6 speed. And keep the crew cab/4cyl combination optional.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I'd prefer a diesel. I have no issue with an optional V8. More options is better.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Whoever worked on the full-size GM pickups need to work on these junior models. They were mediocre when they came out and still are so. The initial 5 cylinder engine is a joke.
        • 7 Years Ago
        It would have been acceptable if GM would have offered the 5L40 instead of the 4L60 without changing the axle ratio. If GM really wanted to get better highway mileage and used the 3.42 with the 5L40 & used the 3.73 with the 4L60, it still would have been faster.
        3.42, 2.22, 1.6, 1, 0.75, Reverse 3.02
        3.059, 1.625, 1, 0.696, Reverse 2.294
      • 7 Years Ago
      Sam sounds like a jealous little boy...

      The H3 is capable off road. Don't bash a perfectly good vehicle, because some spoiled kid has one.

      Or are you on that bandwagon that believes Hummer is the center of all that is evil in this country?
        • 7 Years Ago
        Pete- spoiled or not, the kid has a point. The H2 is nothing but a very slightly modified GMT 800 and the H3 a GMT 355- the Yukon and Colorado platforms, respectively. The reason people hate these SUVs is because they are pure poser-mobiles- GM took the Hummer *image* and put it on top of family-hauler platforms.

        The H2 and H3 in no way offer the offroad prowess of the H1, and fall far below the Range Rover, Landcruiser, and even Jeep off the pavement. Too bad most H2/H3 owners are too busy removing childseats and groceries to notice.
        BTW I, too, notice a lot more women driving H2s and H3s than men around SoCal. If men are doing it to compensate, women must be doing it due to "member"-envy.
      • 7 Years Ago
      there was a kid i went to highschool with, had an H3, thought it was super and turbo charged, had an V6 and was a manly vehicle. (H3's are associated by being the girl's hummer) I told him the real facts, and he was in total shock for the next week.
      He was also a spoiled brat so don't feel anything for him.
        • 7 Years Ago
        i told him he had in inline-5 H3 with a top speed of 99mph (he thought it was somewhere in the 150mph ballpark) I also told him it was a girl car. He thought it was something more manly, but this is off-topic, so lets leave it at that.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I see way more women driving H2s here than H3s.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Sam- I call SHENNANEGENS! What V-6? Super AND turbo charger- seems foolish. What real facts did you tell him??
      • 7 Years Ago
      I realize that this is anecdotal,

      but there are stories of 302 V8 Ford small blocks in 4x4 and 4x2 Rangers, and getting much better mileage than the stock pushrod or OHC 4.0 V6s.

      I had a 4.0 V6 ranger 4x4, before I sold it for my AWD car. The gas mileage sucked. 14-16mpg everywhere. And that was a model with 5 forward gears in the automatic trans.

      Even a mild 302 would have more torque to move that truck around, without having to work the throttle so much, and it probably would have gotten better mileage, at least on the highway.

      It is logical to think that a well-developed SBC in the small GM trucks would do the same thing, and probably be less expensive at it. The previous example of the short and tall runners is an apt one.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Lots of folks around here drop V-8's into S-10's. That's the truck GM should have made. The Colorado/Canyon series would also benefit from the torque, drivability, and smoothness of the V-8. As for gas mileage- these are trucks- not econoboxes, and I daresay that they will get better mileage than their japanese counterparts do with V-6's.
      • 7 Years Ago
      In its last model year the H1 had an MSRP of over $100k...

      You're comparing apples to oranges...the H3 is very capable for it's price and position in the market...end of story.

      • 7 Years Ago
      Actually, as much as you might like ot to be, that's not the end of the story, Pete. Jeeps' Rubicon is far more capable than the H3 offroad, and competes in price.

      H2 in action:

      If parts are breaking on what I consider a simple rocky road, how on earth are people supposed to feel confident leaving the pavement? Oh yeah, they don't.

      I am not saying an H2/H3 should be an H1, just that it should offer similar offroad prowess and not be a poser-mobile for soccer moms. With the Yukon/Colorado platform as a base. fake macho styling, and weak IFS, it is no surprise it is seen more on the soccer field than the trail.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Hopefully they will reconsider, and skip on the V8 all together.
      Just put a 6 speed auto in the truck.
      Since Chrysler doesn't have the 4.0 V6 in the dakota, a souped up 3.7 I5 (250hp, 250ft-lbs) coupled to the 6L45 or 50 would be way faster and get better mileage than the 3.7 dakota.
      It would also be faster than the 1gr-fe Tacoma, and at about parity with the V6 Frontier.
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