• Nov 4th 2007 at 7:01PM
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The 2009 Lincoln MKS will make its official debut at the LA Auto Show in mid-November, but this luxury sedan-turned-Hollywood actor has already been spotted on the set of the new Batman movie in Chicago once before. A sharp-eyed reader, however, has caught the car in the middle of filming again, whether for the movie or for a commercial we don't know, and has graciously shared his snaps with us.

A bit clearer than the last on-set images of the MKS we showed you, these pics reveal in clear detail Lincoln's new big sedan. The design appears extremely clean and sharp. Up front is the split-wing grille that promises to soon become a familiar design cue across the entire Lincoln line. The side of the car is very smooth with an indent near the bottom that's highlighted with a chrome strip. Check out the size of the rear window opening, however, which seems pretty small to us. The rear end, meanwhile, has a look that will take us some time to get used to, but doesn't necessarily detract from what we see as a very slick overall design.

Thanks to Jason A. for the pics!

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      • 7 Years Ago
      Looks really good, especially the side profile and 3/4 view. I wonder if the grill will appear on freshened versions of the MKX, and MKZ or on the (hopefully) next generations? The interior will probably be good, Ford has been cleaning up its interior act. i sat in a new taurus last week and was pretty impressed. Good luck ford!!
      • 7 Years Ago
      It looks good, (back might take a bit to get used to...)

      But a bigger V6 front driver than their other V6 front driver... yippee...

      Why is this car not RWD, with a V8 engine? LS was. G and M infinitis are. CTS is. 300C is. Even Hyundai's Genesis is.

      Why is Lincoln pushing two FWD V6 sedans, when Mercury has two, and Ford also has two. Oh... the SAME two for each, so far. Two becomes six. real smart. Even if the MKS isn't on the Taurus chassis, it is still a very similar layout.

      Why did they not just build the MKR with a few productionized-tweaks. That is what this design refers to, anyway...

      An attractive Linc with RWD... (not Faux-wheel-drive, which is actually rear-wheel-temporary-assist, AKA most haldex systems.) that would be nice, and a worthy successor to the nice, but slightly sedate LS.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Hmm. Perhaps I was missinformed. I was sure that I read or saw that on some Ford website, but another one I just found says what you said. I retract my statement. To me this still doesn't detract from the appeal though. I've always been driving FWD cars so I guess I don't know what I'm missing out on. I think the AWD will do me just fine.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Some clarification: VW/Audi uses real AWD (Torsen differential) on longitudinal-engine cars and Haldex fake AWD on transverse-engine cars.

        So the R32, TT, A3/S3, the current Passat 4Motion, and the upcoming Tiguan use Haldex (fake AWD).

        All other Audis, the Touareg, and the previous-generation Passat 4Motion use a Torsen differential (real AWD).
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ford/Lincoln's AWD system isn't temporary rear wheel support. It's a smart AWD always delivering equal power to all four wheels and adjusting when needed for better traction. it can deliver up to 100% power to any 1 wheel if needed, but does 25% to each in normal conditions.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Last time I checked, Ford, Mazda, Volvo, Mercury, Lincoln, and even others like VW/Audi and now SAAB, are using Haldex AWD.

        That is an electronically controlled viscous coupling between a transverse FWD layout drivetrain, and a rearward driveshaft and rear differential. There is no center differential, just a viscous coupling.

        Most haldex systems, except perhaps the VW's R32, and the not-on-the-market-yet SAAB XWD, and Bugatti Veyron's mid-engine Haldex system, most transverse-front layout haldex setups are 90%/10% Front to rear torque bias, with more rear torque bias being shuttled rearward under front-wheel slip. The car still pulls itself around like a FWD car in most situations. Ford/Lincoln might be different, but I have yet to see documentation to say that it isn't the same haldex that everyone else uses.

        My Subaru is real 50% bias front and rear AWD, with a real center differential, and it doesn't handle like FWD, or RWD, either, although the lack of torque steer, and minimal understeer make it closer to RWD than FWD, in terms of perception from the driver's seat. I have not heard of a normal haldex system being as good as Subaru's symetrical or variable torque distribution (55% rear bias, up to 90% front or rear, both with Limited slip rear diff) AWD systems.

        The point still stands, though, that Ford has all kinds of FWD cars from two FWD platforms. The MKS should have been the MKR, and rear-drive, or at least rear-biased AWD, with a center differential.

        Ford may have designed a knockout looker in this lincoln sedan... but they will still lose me to a car with a better chassis and drivetrain layout. I have owned 3 fords before my Subaru, and currently also have a Mazda Miata.

        I would love to upgrade to a FoMoCo product after my Legacy is done, or even to replace the Miata someday; but not if it is FWD, or FWD-biased. Not when GM is putting out cars like the G8 GT, CTS, and Saturn Sky, which are all RWD. I am sure there are others who also prefer the 300C/Charger/late Magnum, as well, which are also due for a redesign soon.

        Ford is losing out by converting their RWD cars to FWD, rather than just putting them on new RWD chassis.

        The Panther platform isn't selling all that well in the retail market because it is 30 years old, not because it is RWD. The LS didn't catch fire because it didn't out-BMW BMW, when it looked like a BMW interloper between the 3 and 5 series. It's fault was not that it was RWD.

        Taurus/500 and Sable/Montego can be FWD, that is fine. Make the Mercury version the full-dress lux model. But for pete's sake the Lincoln should be RWD, at least. Why not even dress it in everyday sheetmetal, and make a new RWD replacement for Ford, as an alternative to the Taurus. A sport sedan (name it Falcon, or something... like the Aussie rear-driver ford sedan) for the mustang crowd with kids for the retail lots, and a fleet-sales car for the cops and taxi companies, along side a RWD lincoln for livery companies.

        Upgrading the DEW98 platform, or adapting the S197 platform with additional length and IRS should be very do-able. Making a Lincoln Taurus, regardless of how good it looks, is a marginal move, not a bold one.
        • 7 Years Ago
        It IS on the Taurus chassis.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Sorry, that was a reply to darths comment.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I wonder if it was headed to a consumer clinic. The license plate is missing and the movie version sported a "Gotham" version of an Illinois (da Bears SUCK) plate.
        • 7 Years Ago
        The license plate isn't missing, it's painted black like the license plates in all the ford commercials that are body color painted. you can barely make it out if you close hard enough.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You are correct, the plate was there but it's blacked out.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I love it. Thank you Ford for making a truly fantastic and beautiful Town Car replacement. Now don't get me wrong, I love the town car, even if it is old. However, the town car cannot touch this. If anyone knows anything about Lincoln, they would know that those headlights came right off of the early 90's Lincoln 2 door concept. So the saab comment really makes no sense. Anyways, I canot wait to see this car on the road. I cannot afford it, but I will definitely go to a Lincoln dealer and test drive one!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Beautiful car. Looks like TL headlights, Quattroporte taillights, and the side view looks like a GS. But, all in all, its very nice. Can't wait to see the interior. Hope its rear-drive with AWD option and a V8, instead of the FWD V6 only, it replaces!
        • 7 Years Ago
        Dennis what FWD, V6 car does this directly replace, exactly? The MKS essentially replaces the LS.

        Agreed though, Lincoln doesn't need another FWD V6 "flagship." Even the addition of a V8 towards the end of the Continental's life didn't save it from the scrap heap of history.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Sorry to disappoint, FWD, optional AWD IIRC
      • 7 Years Ago
      Just to clearify this The MkS will have standard AWD. It will have a standard 3.7L V6 making 280 to 290 HP. The biggest engine wil be the 3.5L V6 Twin Force making 270+ HP.

      Come on people, what is the difference between FWD baised AWD and RWD baised AWD, all four wheels have have power either way.

      This i not a Fusion derieved car, we keep on telling you this notYOU, but you don't get it. You just want to go with your hate speech, in other words your a idiot.

      This is based on the Taurus platform, but is a little longer than it. It shares no interior sharing with it (not even the dash controls, seats, etc. The exterior panels are all different, even the roof panel.

      For all of you who still say it is still a Ford clone, Lexus, Audi, Infiniti, Porshe, Cadillac, and Acura share platforms with their parent company.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Yes I mean 370+. Sorry about that.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You mean 370+ with the 3.5L V6 TF, right??
        • 7 Years Ago
        Well stop using 'awd', it is a marketing term.

        rear based 'awd': i.e. Infiniti G35x-100% mechanically rear drive, with a clutch coupling (in the transfer case attached to the rear of the transmission) to drive the front differential. That clutch coupling can be anywhere from 0-100% open/locked (burnouts to snow mode)
        The fundamental premise of this type of system is that the designers acknowledge the traction limitations of rear drive, granted Infiniti is still only 53/47, and almost 55/45 with the 'x'
        So you drive drive the front axle intermittently for additional traction. Possilbe gains are improved steering feel, and less understeer.

        No one has yet made a system with a transverse front engine that mechanically drives the rear axle, and clutch couples the front axle. It wouldn't be done because there would be two extra right angle gear meshes that would eat into efficiency. It would be better to have a longitudinal engine configuration, basically this is what the new CTS is supposed to have, the 'active transfer case' nomenclature give it away.
      • 7 Years Ago
      To clarify - this car shares no sheetmetal and almost no underpinnings now with the Taurus' D3 platform. The platform created for the MKS is an evolution on the D3 (D3-2? D4?) and will be used for the 2010 Taurus. This is not a rebadge in any way.

      The AWD system on the base car, if I understand it correctly, will be FWD biased, just like other systems under Audi, for example. The 3.7DI will only produce about 310-320 hp and maybe 280-290 tor rating, so it's not really going to be screeching the wheels off.

      Ford was intending to use this car to launch its TF engines (we'll find out if that is still true soon). The 3.5 TF for the MKS is supposed to be getting about 375 hp and 375 tor. For that set up, Ford was supposed to biasing the AWD system to the rear wheels because 375 ft-lb flying through the front wheels at 2000 rpms would cause some terrible torque steer. I'm not sure how they were going to bias it, but I would assume it is a different AWD design.

      Ultimately, we'll find out in just over a week when this car debuts. But right now, it looks really good. The exterior is far more sophisticated than anything we've seen out of Lincoln in a long time. I can't wait for the MKZ to adopt this style as well later in 2008. I am, dare I say, excited to see the MKS in person.
      • 7 Years Ago
      • 7 Years Ago
      it's a nice blend of an Acura TL and a Maserati Quattroporte. Wouldn't really call the design "clean" though... not much of a unified flow.

      Anyway it looks good..hopefully it can separate itself from the crowd
      • 7 Years Ago
      Beautiful car. Prettiest lincoln I have seen in quite some time.

      What will this car replace, and what is it competing with?
        • 7 Years Ago
        It semi-replaces the (greatest lincoln ever) LS. It will compete domestically with the CTS. Over-sees it will compete with the Acura TL and Infiniti G35(I'm sure I'm missing a few). I think however this car's biggest competitor will be itself.

        If Ford does come around and include the 3.5L TF, a 6 speed auto with a manumatic option or full manual tranny, and a decent rear biased drivetrain, Lincoln will have a huge hit. Customers in this market segment know cars and they want the best. There's no chance of competing with the CTS if Ford does not give the MKS a chance.

        Quick hypothetical situation: A high-performance MKS to compete with the CTS-V? Doubt it will ever be a CTS-V killer (NO way FOrd will ever put more than 400HP in a lincoln) but it would make an interesting project car.
      • 7 Years Ago
      by making this thing..how much will it cut into Volvo's market?
      b/c doesn't look good enough to go against Audi,Saab,Bmw or even VW.
      maybe Buick or Imports: Toyota & Honda too bland for me.

      Not very American anymore are we?where's the American style.I guess Ford has loss it along with Honda.

      My next car will be a Gm car: Saturn Astra/Aura or Saab 9: 2/3 depending of the differences.
        • 7 Years Ago
        And the New Saab 9-2X-3x is a small crossover based off Astra expected manufactured Made in Mexico.

        the old 9-2 was made from the legacy or whatever
        • 7 Years Ago
        Yes my car might be based off Euro design: Saab 9-2 or 9-3, Saturn Astra or Aura, but bland they are not.Whist they are not aimed directly at Toyota/Honda.

        Ford's not alighted properly if this model comes out you will see Mazda and Volvo sales drop.Ford's not going to to win market share by cutting off their head.
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