We've seen dozens of videos of the new Nissan GT-R at the Nurburgring, but this one comes from an inside perspective as an in-car camera shows the driver as well as on-board telemetry. We reported earlier that the GT-R could finish the course in just 7 minutes and 38 seconds, 2 seconds ahead of a Porsche 911 Turbo, and this video provides the proof.
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nastinupe @ Oct 25th 2007 8:52AM
If this car wasn't fugly, I'd buy one.
tim @ Oct 25th 2007 9:02AM
Besides saying Nurburgring about 20 times (what track is this again) this video is great. Anyone who doubts this video has never been to the track. I would have likes some exterior shots of it going around the Ring. Nissan's doing it with less money. I think the Porsche costs 110,000 so you can buy the GtR and get a BMw3/G35/IS to commute in.
cosmo @ Oct 25th 2007 11:58AM
7:04.00 - Uwe Alzen/Arno Klasen, Porsche 996 Turbo, Castrol-Haugg-Cup 2003 (bettered by about 15 s during videotaped VLN races on 24.4 km track)
HOW ABOUT THIS ?????
Adam @ Oct 25th 2007 11:12AM
That is a race car my friend.
Maestro1 @ Oct 25th 2007 11:48AM
Cosmo what's your point about the 996 Turbo? That's not a 911 which is what Nissan was targeting.
Frankenstein Black @ Oct 25th 2007 1:22PM
Um, a 996 Turbo is the same as a 911 Turbo! 911 is a generic term (930, 993, 996 & 997s) are all considered 911s...
Wally @ Oct 25th 2007 9:05AM
This post is going to stir the hornets nest...Any bets on when the hating will begin?
That track is awesome, i hope i have the chance to drive it someday.
mindlessoath @ Oct 25th 2007 9:19AM
NOTE: the haters will begin soon, but they will say some stupid stuff without doing any research, like hey the time doesnt line up right, and they dont do it correctly.
i would like to say stfu first because they dont know what they are talking about.
That is how the very vast majority of laptimes are calculated, only during a closed-session lap, usually for a sporting event, can you get the full uninterupted 20.832 km on Nordschleife. Other times drivers are restricted from going full-speed past T13 due to safety concerns of people exiting the pitlane.
magazine scan from sport auto showing the 997 turbo being timed this way.
second of all if it's 100-150 ft which is 46m max, it won't take 6-8 seconds to cover it, considering it does a standing 400m in 11.7 seconds.
2 seconds AT most considering it is already going at full chat
this is the official way of timing laps at the nurbugring to provide a safe access to the old entrance/exit there. Thus, Sportauto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km, which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.
In the mean time, here is a scan of Germany's Sport Auto magazine, which conducts its "Super Tests" using only 20.6km as can be seen on the top right corner:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=126501&mID=339308&l=g
Furthermore, please read the following article on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
Most people know this is how "official" Nurburgring laps are timed, I don't think I've seen any in the past 5 years that were 100% complete laps, something that basically doesn't happen outside of motorsport events where obviously the entire track has to be lapped in order to race. Pagani's new Zonda F lap was done like this as well for example, are they a pathetic company?
Annother argument most say is how does a 3800lbs car get these fast times....well how the hell does this car,
2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black Series
Length × Width × Height in : 183.4 × 72.2 × 53.8
Weight lb (kg) : 3880 (1760)
and its time at the ring is 7:36 --- 162.631 km/h
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&bottom=790#post795
get such fast times? its heavier than a gt-r.
seoultrain @ Oct 25th 2007 10:38AM
mindlessoath, I was one of the "haters" in the other thread. And I was merely pointing out the discrepancy, and never accused nissan of anything. Thank you for the info, but no thanks for the condescending way you conveyed it. Sorry for not knowing every little detail about nurburgring lapping. I guess it wasn't safe to assume that a timed lap is the same as a full lap.
zamafir @ Oct 25th 2007 11:23AM
@middlesoath - thanks for the reference to the SL Black and link!
2004m3driver @ Oct 25th 2007 1:24PM
@seoultrain
LoL at the condescending tone thing you pointed out. Only feeble minded people get offended by that. If I get proven wrong I am humbled and especially if I was wrong because I am ignorant and didn't bother to research like some people do.
If youre wrong youre wrong but if youre right youre a jerk
nissanfreak87 @ Oct 25th 2007 9:22AM
The hating will start soon, saying they sped up the tape or something. The car is amazing, aesthetically and performance-wise. I want one really, really bad.
@Tim, I looked up a 911 turbo on Edmunds and it listed the base price right at $123K, for the money I'll take a GT-R daily drive it like it's meant and put a nice down payment on a house, well, if you were spending that much on a car, I'd hope you already had a place to live.
7:38 is impressive, seeing how I can't even get my modified R34 on Forza 2 under 8:00, that could be because 950hp cars with stock tires don't do too hot, or maybe because I'm a crappy driver, who knows!?
jjd @ Oct 25th 2007 9:34AM
Nissanfreak87 wrote: "The car is amazing, aesthetically and performance-wise. "
I'm not hating on the performance, which seems plenty real. But that thing is really ugly.
nissanfreak87 @ Oct 25th 2007 9:39AM
I think it looks good, there a couple iffy camera angles, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if you don't like it that's cool, but I do.
Andrew @ Oct 25th 2007 10:32AM
Yeah, I just want to say one thing: the GT-r used in this test was not a stock GTR. This has got to be the most overhyped car ever made. The Playstation crow is going crazy over it, not that they could ever afford one. This what the real stock GT-R can do coming from the Nissan chief engineer. From Autoweek:
"But Mizuno suggested the GT-R could get anywhere from 7:44 on up, with most laps coming in between 7:55 and 7:58. So he suggested the GT-R’s strong suit was that it offered “the best cost per lap time.” For whatever that’s worth."
That's from the GT-Rs chief engineer
nissanfreak87 @ Oct 25th 2007 10:42AM
wow, it's amazing to see how people hate on this car, for whatever reason I don't know. Everything I've seen and heard about this car has pointed to the car that lapped the 'ring as the production-ready GT-R. The car is amazing, there is a video of one lapping the 'ring in 7:38, and that's all I need.
People are mad because a Nissan is going to kick butt and their Porsche and Corvette loving minds can't comprehend how amazing this car is.
Also, it says he "suggested" most of the time people will play down a new product in order to make the official times seem even better, and to throw off competition. Just because someone "suggests" something doesn't mean it's true.
zamafir @ Oct 25th 2007 11:30AM
@nissanfreak87, it is amazing how damn practical this car is. I love the R8, love everything about it, I just feel bad because it was being billed as the most practical super car on the market... then comes the faster GT-R with a bigger boot and room for four. If i had the cash, my money would be spent on the GT-R, it's just to damn fast, and to damn practical.
nissanfreak87 @ Oct 25th 2007 11:48AM
great problems to have huh?
But the freakin' R8 is still one of the most beautiful designs of all time, which counts for something
R @ Oct 25th 2007 12:43PM
@Andrew
I love how your suggestions become facts. First, the engineer's suggestion, and then your own "it's not stock."
And chief engineer? So what? Do you think he did a meter by meter analysis of the Ring just because he's the chief engineer? I've worked with engineers from several fields (and I am one), and just like everyone else, they/we are not omnipotent people. For a question like the one about the Ring, we'd give a guesstimate, and that is exactly what he did.
DTB @ Oct 25th 2007 9:26AM
yeah... i'm going dust off gt4 and get some practice in.