7:04.00 - Uwe Alzen/Arno Klasen, Porsche 996 Turbo, Castrol-Haugg-Cup 2003 (bettered by about 15 s during videotaped VLN races on 24.4 km track)


HOW ABOUT THIS ?????

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That is a race car my friend.

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Cosmo what's your point about the 996 Turbo? That's not a 911 which is what Nissan was targeting.

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Um, a 996 Turbo is the same as a 911 Turbo! 911 is a generic term (930, 993, 996 & 997s) are all considered 911s...

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NOTE: the haters will begin soon, but they will say some stupid stuff without doing any research, like hey the time doesnt line up right, and they dont do it correctly.

i would like to say stfu first because they dont know what they are talking about.

That is how the very vast majority of laptimes are calculated, only during a closed-session lap, usually for a sporting event, can you get the full uninterupted 20.832 km on Nordschleife. Other times drivers are restricted from going full-speed past T13 due to safety concerns of people exiting the pitlane.

magazine scan from sport auto showing the 997 turbo being timed this way.

second of all if it's 100-150 ft which is 46m max, it won't take 6-8 seconds to cover it, considering it does a standing 400m in 11.7 seconds.

2 seconds AT most considering it is already going at full chat

this is the official way of timing laps at the nurbugring to provide a safe access to the old entrance/exit there. Thus, Sportauto Supertests cover only about 20.6 km, which in average yields a 7 s shorter lap time compared to a full lap.
In the mean time, here is a scan of Germany's Sport Auto magazine, which conducts its "Super Tests" using only 20.6km as can be seen on the top right corner:
http://www.supercars.net/Pics?vpf2=y&gID=0&fID=2&tID=126501&mID=339308&l=g

Furthermore, please read the following article on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

Most people know this is how "official" Nurburgring laps are timed, I don't think I've seen any in the past 5 years that were 100% complete laps, something that basically doesn't happen outside of motorsport events where obviously the entire track has to be lapped in order to race. Pagani's new Zonda F lap was done like this as well for example, are they a pathetic company?



Annother argument most say is how does a 3800lbs car get these fast times....well how the hell does this car,
2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK 63 AMG Black Series
Length × Width × Height in : 183.4 × 72.2 × 53.8
Weight lb (kg) : 3880 (1760)
and its time at the ring is 7:36 --- 162.631 km/h
http://www.supercars.net/PitLane?viewThread=y&gID=3&fID=0&tID=10073&bottom=790#post795
get such fast times? its heavier than a gt-r.

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mindlessoath, I was one of the "haters" in the other thread. And I was merely pointing out the discrepancy, and never accused nissan of anything. Thank you for the info, but no thanks for the condescending way you conveyed it. Sorry for not knowing every little detail about nurburgring lapping. I guess it wasn't safe to assume that a timed lap is the same as a full lap.

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@middlesoath - thanks for the reference to the SL Black and link!

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@seoultrain

LoL at the condescending tone thing you pointed out. Only feeble minded people get offended by that. If I get proven wrong I am humbled and especially if I was wrong because I am ignorant and didn't bother to research like some people do.

If youre wrong youre wrong but if youre right youre a jerk

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Nissanfreak87 wrote: "The car is amazing, aesthetically and performance-wise. "

I'm not hating on the performance, which seems plenty real. But that thing is really ugly.

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I think it looks good, there a couple iffy camera angles, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, if you don't like it that's cool, but I do.

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Yeah, I just want to say one thing: the GT-r used in this test was not a stock GTR. This has got to be the most overhyped car ever made. The Playstation crow is going crazy over it, not that they could ever afford one. This what the real stock GT-R can do coming from the Nissan chief engineer. From Autoweek:
"But Mizuno suggested the GT-R could get anywhere from 7:44 on up, with most laps coming in between 7:55 and 7:58. So he suggested the GT-R’s strong suit was that it offered “the best cost per lap time.” For whatever that’s worth."

That's from the GT-Rs chief engineer

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wow, it's amazing to see how people hate on this car, for whatever reason I don't know. Everything I've seen and heard about this car has pointed to the car that lapped the 'ring as the production-ready GT-R. The car is amazing, there is a video of one lapping the 'ring in 7:38, and that's all I need.

People are mad because a Nissan is going to kick butt and their Porsche and Corvette loving minds can't comprehend how amazing this car is.

Also, it says he "suggested" most of the time people will play down a new product in order to make the official times seem even better, and to throw off competition. Just because someone "suggests" something doesn't mean it's true.

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@nissanfreak87, it is amazing how damn practical this car is. I love the R8, love everything about it, I just feel bad because it was being billed as the most practical super car on the market... then comes the faster GT-R with a bigger boot and room for four. If i had the cash, my money would be spent on the GT-R, it's just to damn fast, and to damn practical.

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great problems to have huh?

But the freakin' R8 is still one of the most beautiful designs of all time, which counts for something

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@Andrew
I love how your suggestions become facts. First, the engineer's suggestion, and then your own "it's not stock."
And chief engineer? So what? Do you think he did a meter by meter analysis of the Ring just because he's the chief engineer? I've worked with engineers from several fields (and I am one), and just like everyone else, they/we are not omnipotent people. For a question like the one about the Ring, we'd give a guesstimate, and that is exactly what he did.

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