• Sep 25, 2007

With the opening of their second plant in China, the Blue Oval is talking about exporting cars outside the world's most populace country. China exports are appealing to automakers because of the cheap labor costs, but as of yet, most cars made in China, stay in China. Ford CEO Allan Mulally thinks the new plant, which is currently making the Mazda2 and may soon produce the Verve/Fiesta, would be a good place to start China exports, and if it means either product will hit U.S. shores, we'd tend to agree with him.

Ford's going to have to deal with an abstinent and pissed off UAW as soon as an agreement is struck with GM, and Mr. Mulally may be setting the stage for negotiations. We're just guessing here, but we think the UAW may have an issue with Chinese-made Fords on U.S. highways.

[Source: Automotive News - Sub. Req.]



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      • 7 Years Ago
      When possible, North American cars should be made in North America.

      People need jobs.
        • 7 Years Ago
        How would you react if I told you that North America is a continent that on which the USA is the smallest country?

        The USA also needs an economy boost.
        Thusly my comment.
        • 7 Years Ago
        How would you react if no one outside the USA bought them? Ford, GM and Chrysler can't sell only American made cars.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Thank you for destroying the American automobile industry UAW. Because of your greed we'll be buying cars made by a communist dictatorship instead. Way to go.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ford makes cars all over the world and you "blame" the local union. I guess all NA car makers are to only make cars in the USA. That will be the only place they sell them then.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Barney, Ford makes cars in other countries in which they also SELL cars - because it's cheaper to do it that way. American cars sold HERE used to all be MADE here. Then plants opened up in Canada and later Mexico - and now they're talking about freaking CHINA? I blame the greedy UAW for making it too expensive for the NA manufacturers to continue to build cars here and remain competitive. It's a world economy now - and the UAW's continued extortion is going to get all of their members nothing but unemployed.
      • 7 Years Ago
      global economy. the US has not been a manufacturing nation for decades. we are a service country. sorry for the little guys just looking to make a buck but your union leaders have held on to an antiquated system for far too long. its going to turn around and bite them, hard.

      i don't care who makes my car. i don't care where my car is built. what i do care about it fit and finish, reliabilty, and cost efficiency. you give me those things and your company could be called Yugo for all i care.
      • 7 Years Ago
      if they plan on bring Chinese cars here i hope they follow the assembly making process and not just let a chinese company produce things with ford stamped on them.
      china has been in the news lately for massive recalls not sure ford needs that kinda business.
      • 7 Years Ago
      If Ford, GM and Chryslers are made in China, then who will buy them? The only people I know with domestic cars are buying them out of loyalty to the USA.
      Tim
      • 7 Years Ago
      Here is the issue I comtemplated yesterday during the whole strike business...

      If we pay auto workers less...is it possible that we would attract a lower caliber of workers...Workers who get high before work and forget to put screws in our vehicles or do half ass jobs welding parts together...

      think about how often a fast food order is screwed up...I wouldn't be suprised if an order screwed up on average 5 times per day at any one fast food joint...but imagine if we're talking about cars here

      I think the auto worker is overpaid...at the same time I want them to be paid enough to care...
      Think about all the problems we've had with products out of china recently...is this what we want for our vehicles?

      I guess they could always upsell when you come in with your recall ticket....
      • 7 Years Ago
      I SAY "NO CHINESE CARS ON OUR STREETS/HIGHWAYS TILL THE CHINESE CAN CLEAN UP THEIR ACT AND STOP SENDING US PRODUCTS THAT HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO INJURE (DEFECTIVE TIRES/ LEAD PAINT ON CHILDRENS TOYS/POISON FOOD) OR KILL US"! AND AS AN ADDED THING, BOYCOT MATEL FOR NOT BEING ON THE BALL AND INSPECTING THE PRODUCTS THEY HAVE MADE WITH THE CHEAP CHINESE LABOR! CARRY OUT THIS BOYCOT TILL MATEL MOVES THE PRODUCTION OF THEIR PRODUCTS BACK TO THE U.S. AND RE-HIRES AS MANY OF THE WORKERS WHO THEY LAID OFF WHEN THEY MOVED THEIR PRODUCTION TO CHINA AS WILL COME BACK TO WORK FOR THEM!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Can't get over how much better that car looks than the new US Focus.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Hmm... lead paint, faulty tires, tinfoil cars... yeah, I really want more of that here. And that's not even getting into the social issues that country has, or its total disregard for intellectual property. The Big 3 are still fighting an uphill battle in terms of perceived quality, and bringing over cars from China would definitely NOT help that issue.
        • 7 Years Ago
        there's been multiple issues of lead-based paint on products coming out of China, not just Mattel/Fisher-Price. The latest of which was lunch boxes in California.

        And while I haven't read anything stating that Mattel is claiming it was their fault for the lead paint, I kinda find it hard to believe they would have instructed their Chinese mfg to use paint with toxic levels of lead in it.

        In China's defense, it would appear that Brilliance miraculously redesigned the BS6 to pass the Euro spec crash tests within a matter of months after failing miserably the first time. And they produce a lot of electronics (PMPs, etc) and accessories that are just fine (most folks probably assume these products are made in Japan or Korea anyway). But as of late, their track record with consumer products isn't the best.

        Regardless, Chinese cars are going to be seen as crap here in the US for quite a while (just look at how long it took the Korean mfgs to overcome that stigma) and would not help Ford's or anyone else's perceived quality.
      • 7 Years Ago
      As long as they don't use lead paint when paiting the cars and keep the arsenics away from interior materials would make sure the Fords suck less.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I guess it all depends on what Ford asked for. Not that long ago lead was used in paint and formaldehyde was used in some synthetics. I believe it was Americans who came up with it, so many years ago.
          • 7 Years Ago
          I'm just shocked at what seems acceptable to the Chinese government (and would therefore be OK for Chinese automakers) as far as levels of toxins in their products. I remember a story about new car interiors and the toxins given off, I'd be concerned.
      • 7 Years Ago
      This would be the best thing that could ever happen to the US. The unions have been the problem since day one. The American car companies have always been plagued with the UAW. How can you compete when the do everything to close down production. The unions should be toughen out ASAP. They are nothing but trouble makers and they are the root cause for the quality of vehicles that are been produced on the US shores. I hope that FORD and GM import there cars from the EU and China. We will at least get nicer vehicles and they will be better built. I wounder how many cars where tampered with from pissed of UWA members?
        • 7 Years Ago
        geo.stewart: You're definitely right about the debt, but that has less to do with people buying goods from foreign countries than it does about the US government being dumb. China extending a credit line just makes financing the government easier. If it has to be done, than might as well make it cheap. When the US pays China back it'll depress that value of the dollar making imports more expensive. People will then buy more American goods. You're going to see a lot more of that from Canada now the looney is worth more than the greenback. These things have to take time though. People want drastic change in economic policy and at the end of the day, that's very destructive.
        • 7 Years Ago
        compy386,

        all is good as long as the bill doesnt come due, but we DO have massive amounts of debt, and we DO have negative trade balances, and we ARE losing the intellectual capital battle.

        That all means we are turning into a consuming country paying for it with credit. What a shock, the gov't is in debt, citizens are growing debt like its kudzu, and its going to have to balance at some point.

        our current pace isnt helping the trend, its worsening it. we are borrowing against our childrens futures until we find an advantage.
        As to being a services country, thats great for us internally but what services are we providing abroad? military? not to countries that pay us.
        • 7 Years Ago
        sorry,
        I hate the union with a passion. I've had to deal with them (not UAW but IBEW) before and while its painful, I REALLY do not want to be supporting China's economy any more than I already am.

        More offshore jobs is what is putting the country in debt (more import than export). Besides, you dont really think that the cars would be sold cheaper, that a Ford Fusion would all of a sudden be $2000 cheaper to buy? No, it would put more money in mgmt's pocket and eventually devalue the dollar more.

        If people, and that means from the consumer to the unions to the mftrs mgmt teams to the govt officials, would think more big picture, we wouldnt be in the economic mess we are in now. Pretty soon, its going to be the Xin Hou Yellowstone park



      • 7 Years Ago
      so much for "buy American" eh
        • 7 Years Ago
        You beat me to the punch. I read about how the NA car makers hire so many people and then how the car makers should fire the lot of them. Well China doesn't have unions YET. Perhaps without unions, the Car makers can come up with comparable wages with the Chinese.
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