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Ferrari Enzo successor to feature 900 HP twin-turbo V8?
We just told you about the upcoming Enzo replacement based on the Millechili concept a few days ago, but now we have a few more juicy rumors to share. Informed sources tell us that the upcoming replacement for Ferrari's Enzo supercar will take a different tack. As was reported earlier, it is believed that Ferrari wants to go with a smaller dimension vehicle featuring a smaller displacement engine. We're not sure of the dimensions or weight, but at least in the engine bay we should see a reduction over the current supercar. It is believed to be powered by a V8, unlike the Enzo's 6.0L V12. Not to be outdone by the likes of Bugatti and Koenigsegg, however, rumor has it this new Ferrari (F60?) will feature a pair of turbos feeding that V8, resulting in somewhere around 900 HP. Even with a vehicle weighing about the same as the Enzo, 900 HP would produce staggering performance. Early word was a 500 HP target figure, but the 900 number seems to be pretty firm according to our source. We'll keep our ears open for any other details we might hear about the possible Enzo successor.
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Rob 3:32PM (9/20/2007)
Hey check out my new supercar!
Cool punch it!
OK!
rrrrrr BAM into a wall.
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sean 3:36PM (9/20/2007)
Sounds good. I love small displacement high output engines, that is what a pure sports car should be. The F40 was 3 litre V8 turbo so looks like Ferrari are getting back to form. V12 gives more power but makes the car a bit of a dinasour.
Hurrah for V8's!!
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zamafir 5:01PM (9/20/2007)
... more power? A few years ago I had the chance to sit in/ listen to a Ferrari F40 LM. Utterly insane, nothing matches the chainsaw sounding analogy better then that car. With only 3L it saw 720hp due to turbos, or more power then the enzo.
i'd love for ferrari to return to this small displacement, turbocharged v8 archetype.
AIS 3:38PM (9/20/2007)
http://www.autoinsurancestories.com
900hp for the F430 replacement? That's ridiculous. I could believe that if it was a special edition vehicle later down the line to compete with Lamborghini's constant LP revisions, but base at 900hp doesn't sound realistic at all.
My guess is 600hp - 650hp if that.
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Chet 3:45PM (9/20/2007)
Lets see..the article says ENZO 6 times and has the tag ENZO 4 times. And you somehow get "F430 replacement" from this? Did I miss something?
Preston M 3:51PM (9/20/2007)
It's just a lame call for attention to his shit site.
Dustin 4:22PM (9/20/2007)
The last article from Autoblog about this car started with the sentence "Ferrari's getting in on the environmental game."
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teebo 4:29PM (9/20/2007)
How well does it crash? Will there be refinements in the "splitting in half" technology?
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Torqued 4:45PM (9/20/2007)
Actually, the splitting in half is F1-derived technology. Try crashing a "regular" car at that speed and see if you walk away.
Most (all?) of the reported Ferrari crashes I've been reading about ended with the drive walking away alive, and usually unhurt. Pretty amazing, IMO.
Carlos 5:02PM (9/20/2007)
I'd like to see a super car that weighes 1000kilos and still has full ac/interior/radio and has 500 hp. That'd be more impressive
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spdracerut 5:54PM (9/20/2007)
I will be very surprised if they come out with a 900hp small displacement motor. Why? Because it would mean serious turbolag and that is completely unacceptable to Ferrari (I would assume). To get 900hp with turbos and still have a fat powerband, you still need ~6L.
I can definitely see Ferrari going to a ~4 liter motor and adding turbos to maintain the current power level (~600hp). From my personal experience, I deem 150hp/L with properly sized turbos still gives 'acceptable' driveability. Smaller displacement means lower CO2 emissions and improved fuel economy. Even supercars are held to the ever tighter emissions regulations.
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El Calor 6:50PM (9/20/2007)
Lighter weight and 900 hp! Buyers can't even keep from wrecking them now ;)
http://www.Ferrari-Talk.com
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Wickedly_Clever 7:16PM (9/20/2007)
I remembered back in 04 when Ferrari' CEO said that they'd never use Turbos, 'cause there were for cheaper less superior super cars (911 Turbo), i think i still have the Motor Trend issue, in which he stated.
Oh, and Listen Frank Filipponio, the so called Ferrari Enzo it's actually an F60 so this will be F70...
BTW, dealers should teach their new drivers, how to handle a super car, they can even charge for it, they won't care, and lot's of sales going up!
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Frank Filipponio 8:39PM (9/20/2007)
This has been discussed before with no satisfactory conclusion, but the F40 was ostensibly built in 1987 to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the company. The F50 should have come in 1997 and the F60 in 2007. The F40 didn't reach the States until a few years after the 1987 date, and the F50 and Enzo beat their targets by a few years, so there is still a possibility this could be an F60 if it came out within a year or two. Maybe an F65? Enzo II? Red Devil? :D
Alex 8:45PM (9/20/2007)
900hp from a v8 would lead to some pretty intense turbos. that lag would be a bitch. maybe a two stage would over come that but can they then get to 900hp? maybe dual two stage?
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Carlos 10:13PM (9/20/2007)
my guess is that it would have to be sequential or a VT set up in order to reduce the lag, also if Ferrari is going to go green they'll have all the newest technologies on this engine so with DI and IVVT and all the other wonderful nomenclatures it shouldn't be too bad. I just keep wondering why Ferrari insists on using such small displacement motors? I understand in terms of ability to rev a smaller displacement motor is great for that, but unless they have fast spooling turbos, that engine is going to be severly lacking in the torque department.
Alex 11:54PM (9/20/2007)
not to mention that a larger engine can generally withstand higher hp & torque better than a high strung smaller engine. granted i would say 1 in 1,000,000 Ferraris will make it to 100,000 miles in any sort of reasonable time, but still...
jamey 9:06PM (9/20/2007)
I do hope they give it a more original look than the Millechili concept has. Perhaps something P4/5 persuasion?
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The Penguin 12:08AM (9/21/2007)
Is 900 HP really enough to keep Ferrari ahead, because I bet that the next big Lamborghini supercar will have close to 1000 HP.
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g8or8de 8:58AM (9/21/2007)
900 hp is good enough, but Ferrari needs to go back to the basics: keep the electrics to a minimum, and keep the weight at no more than 1100 kg.
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