• Aug 24, 2007
click above image for more high-res pics of the 2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10

The new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT-10 was a big deal when it debuted at the Detroit Auto Show last January. Adding 100 horsepower to an already stout 500-horsepower 8.3L V10 tends to make headlines. The embargo for driving impressions of Dodge's latest 600-hp snake lifted today, and word from Inside Line is that it's as brutal as can be, but easier to drive than last year's model. The 2008 Viper's top speed is now a full 200 mph, and 60 mph occurs in a 3.7-second blink of the eye. Plus, the now 8.4L V10 has better fuel economy than the 8.3L engine it replaces, 13/22 city/highway versus 11/19. That will put $1,700 back in a Viper buyer's pocket thanks to a smaller gas guzzler tax. In fact, even though the Viper's MSRP has risen, the break in the gas guzzler tax means it actually costs less than a 2006 model. 100 more horsepower, better fuel mileage and it costs less – score one for Dodge, at least until the Corvette SS arrives for a high-horsepower head-to-head comparo.

[Source: Inside Line]



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      • 7 Years Ago
      I have to admit, I just flat out can't understand most modern car enthusiasts' obsession with interiors. A nice interior certainly adds something to a car and a horrid one can make the car feel cheap... but if you think this interior is horrid you've obviously grown up with an entirely different generation of cars than I have (and I'm only 22).

      The interior of my cousin's 2003 S-class is nicer than in the '94 Firebird my brother had- tasteful wood, softer plastics and whatnot - but the idea that the Pontiac's interior should actually be repulsive to anyone just sounds ludicrous to me.

      The difference between the interior of a '94 Firebird and a 2003 S-class to me is the difference between "Meh, it'll do" and "Well, that's quite nice", nothing more. Which about sums up the different ends of the scale on which I judge car interiors. This interior would register closer the the Pontiac but I can't really say it bothers me in any way whatsoever.

      Is something seriously wrong with me as a car buff or what?
        • 7 Years Ago
        I have to agree. I've never understood all this moaning and groaning over interiors. I'm more concerned with how something drives than what kind of material surrounds the radio and a/c controls.
        • 7 Years Ago
        From one of the interior snobs:
        The interior is the most used part or characteristic of any car. Not handling, nor power, nor ride, nor exterior come close to the amount of time spent using the interior. That is what makes it so important, and make-or-break at least for me. Ergonomics, materials, fit & finish, driving position, ease-of-use, and aesthetics all come into play in determining the quality of an interior. Unfortunately, the Viper's interior misses the mark on all but ergonomics and ease-of-use, especially for the price point.

        Morinn, you and I grew up in the same generation and have likely been subjected to the same levels of quality in car interiors. I think the difference lies in that my first car (a '94 Integra) had high quality materials for the time, tight clearances, good ergonomics, and a perfect driving position, so I was spoiled early. But that car cost less than your brother's Firebird for the same model year, and the interior in that does actually repulse me.

        The interior of the '94 Firebird was a sea of dark gray shiny plastic, extra-thin carpet, extra-large panel gaps, and horrendous angled driving position. That was unacceptable even for the bottom-line-driven GM at the time, but has now seen a renaissance in this Viper.

        The root of all the complaints, in my opinion, is that the Viper team seems to have spent quite a lot of time and energy getting things like the engine and exterior well sorted to make the car appealing to bystanders, but very little time at all making it a nice place to sit in. That's a shame, because I personally could never drive one if I was subjected to that every time i went for a drive, and I know I'm not alone.

        Those who can afford a Viper are used to cars like 911s, Range Rovers, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, etc., all of which have exponentially better interiors than the Viper. When it comes down to it, I can stand to lose a few ponies if it means spending that much time in a higher-quality environment.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Well, Im the same. I just find the moaning and whining over the vipers interior just sad. Hell people even moan over the vettes interior when Ive been in one and its fine.

        But what do I know, the people here are used to bentleys and rolls royces.
      • 7 Years Ago
      The interior is cheap and simple and I swear I see an 8-track player in there. :) But it's a Dodge Viper. It's supposed to be cheap and simple. It reminds me of a real race car interior.
      Some performace cars try to mix performace with luxury. Some even do it very well. But you pay for that. The Dodge Viper is about getting insane horsepower to the huge rear tires for as little money as possible.

      I would be more upset if it had satellite navigation, DVD players and climate control...
      • 7 Years Ago
      Yeah camshaft phaser!
      Go technology.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Too bad no variable intake valve timing, only exhaust.
        Maybe a compound duplex phaser will be installed next year, 625hp@6250 sounds nice.

        It would be nice to make 600ft-lbs@4750. Isn't that the limit of the TR-6060.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Ok, sorry about the of the subject rant. I couldn't help myself. First of all, I'm over 40 so I remember my parents driving 60s model Imperials. Those were interiors so I find it amusing when someone today talks about sub-standard interiors like somehow Honda's (or whoever) plastic is superior to everyone else's.

      This is a regular SRT 10 not an ACR or ACX (I forgot what they call it). Comparing it to a full blown race intended Z 06 is silly. People making a big deal about the "200 mph" mark is also amusing to me. The viper has always had the power to reach this mark but Chrysler engineers (to their credit) decided to live in the real world. Since going 200 mph in 99% of the world is insanely dangerous in public, the gearing of the car has been set for better acceleration with a top speed of 170 or so, which is still faster than the vast majority of owners will ever go. The Viper has never been accepted as a true supercar which is imbicile. Most of this thinking has come from those who have never driven nor will ever own one of these category of cars. The car is an amazing achievement of performance and price, as is the Vette.

      Don't forget that the V 10 to it's credit is still in a very de-tuned state. There's a Dodge dealership in Nebraska (only in America) that sells modified 1,000 plus hp Vipers that claims the engines aren't strained at all. There's also a guy in Switzerland who has a 1,500 hp Viper he routinely takes to the autobahn.

      These folks also make me think of all the talk about "Z 06" blah, blah, blah. Don't get me wrong, it's a great car but it's a race car. If you intend to race it, then a Z 06 or ACR or any other similar vehicle would be a good choice. If you intend to actually drive and enjoy the car more than a few times a year, this means driving on the street where most of the assests of a race prep car become annoyances. The Z 06 has thinned alot of stuff for weight loss like a much thinner windshield and much lighter rims. Great for the track but a very expensive drag when a rock busts the windshield or the unseen midnight pothole takes out a rim (much easier to do). The Porsche GT3 is very noisy due to lack of insulation for weight reduction.

      And how much more expensive is the car than the normal model and how much of that extra performance will you actually notice? A seasoned race car driver on the track? Yes. The average driver cruisin the highway or hitting the track for that matter? Not so much.

      These cars are also hardtops which are never as fun as the roadsters which are heavier, in my opinion anyway. If you're insanely wealthy and can own 5 of everything, then this discussion becomes moot. If this is going to be your lifetime dream purchase (most folks) then it all becomes very important, including practicality. PRACTICALITY?!?!? Yes, even that. A 2 seat sports car with a glove compartment sized trunk can be very limiting for 2 folks and luggage on a weekend excursion. Even impossible for some one like me who has to carry a guitar everywhere I go. This is one of the reasons why the Porsche 911 is so popular. I would opt for a mildly modified Mustang GT convertible (high dollar exhaust, cold air kit, perf. chip, suspension tweaks, etc.). Close enough in the performance dept., no insane insurace rates, sufficient cargo space and a heck of alot cheaper even with the mods.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I think you missed the point Scott. Is a regular SRT 10 more streetable than a Z 06? Yes. Is an SRT 10 more streetable than an ACR version of the Viper? Yes again. Would a regular Vette be more streetable than a Z 06? Yes again.

        GM has always been a bigger company with better advertising. Just because it sells more cars doesn't necessarily say it's better. GM outsold all the Hemis, does that make them better? Drag racing history would say otherwise. So just because I see more Z 06s than say 911 turbos or Ferraris does that make them better? No.

        I built my own street rod when I was in highschool. The first thing I learned was there's the car you have fun with, then there's the car you can live with. There's a huge difference between the track and the street. If you actually lived with a car built for racing everyday on the street, you would know my comments are spot on.
        • 7 Years Ago
        "If you intend to race it, then a Z 06 or ACR or any other similar vehicle would be a good choice. If you intend to actually drive and enjoy the car more than a few times a year, this means driving on the street where most of the assests of a race prep car become annoyances."


        Did you just intend to say that a *Viper* is more streetable than a *Z06*???

        That's the first time I've seen someone argue FOR the Viper on the street! I know there's a price difference, but I also assume drivability is a determining factor in why I see about 10 times more Z06's driving around than Vipers.
      • 7 Years Ago
      You save $1700 in "gas guzzler" taxes because it gets 2 to 3 mpg better than the old car? Pathetic. Someday the congress will find a way to have an excessive methane tax if you take too big a crap in the morning. This has gone way too far and it's way past time for some citizen government in this country. You know, people who have a real job besides being a politicain all their lives? Term limits once and for all!
      • 7 Years Ago
      The interior of any car is important because you're a$$ is in it when you're driving the thing. So, when you pay good hard earned money for your car you would think that at some effort is made to give you a well designed interior and not something that looks like it was just thrown together. I do believe that "some" satisfaction of driving the car should come from the fact that you enjoy the interior. Dodge Viper THROWN TOGETHER
      • 7 Years Ago
      That interior is really hard to look at.
        • 7 Years Ago
        For all those complaining about the interior (which I personally don't mind being simple and race-car like), name a car that offers 600 hp and 560 lb-ft of torque AND a better interior for less money?
        • 7 Years Ago
        See Corvette SS upon release.


        But really, when you drive a car, what are you looking at? The dash, or the road? Albeit, the Viper has some shotty visibility.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Rosie Odonnell is hard to look at. The interior is just boring and cheep looking, but it isn't hard to look at.
      • 7 Years Ago
      For all you morons,the vette has traction control,the Viper does not!!! So if the Viper had traction control knock off a second in the 1/4 and 0-60 !!! Our 99 Viper gts runs 11.80's all day long-BONE STOCK !!(even some magazine articles with real drivers backs that up !!! high 3 sec-60!!! You need seat time to know how to launch tese cars!! A 99 Viper stomps a new zo6 when you know how to launch the Viper,not the girly traction controlled vette !!! The Viper reminds me of old Dodge,Plymouth,Chrysler 440 cars(low 12sec 1/4 cars with some traction) and Hemi cars(stock 426 hemi mopar runs 11.70's) all the 0-60 1/4 mile times are bogus because the cars dont have traction(as if you look at the 1960's magazine articles they show the timed run and tones of tire smoke pouring from the tires, as for the viper as well).As for the interior,they are not that bad,when your going sideways at 70 mph with smoke pouring out of the tires,do you really have time to marvel about the leather stitched seats...or look at your navigation,outside temperture NO WAY !!!Its just all these jealous morons who think their crap ass civic(oohh launch your civic @ 6000 rpm and it only chirps the tires barely get a real car) is faster than a Viper..Sorry for my rant but 90% of the people do not know anything about powerful cars new & old with no traction control,no electronic driving devices ect..So unless you ever drove one dont tell me a vette is better than a viper !!Funny how the new vette kinda looks like a viper !!!
        • 7 Years Ago
        Ummm...... most magazines turn off traction control when doing speed times. So there goes that argument.....
      • 7 Years Ago
      Bravo Dodge!
      100 more hp and better fuel economy?
      That's impressive.
      Kinda annoys me that mostly middle aged men are going to tool around the city in these for hours on a weekend wasting tons of gas but I also think that Dodge needs all the help it can get. An insane performer like this should help.
      Also, the rims look like they belong on a sport model... Of the Grand Caravan.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Nissan GTR who?
      • 7 Years Ago
      How about a performance metric that requires a little shifting, like 0-120, or 150mph.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I love how it has the same radio and climate controls as my piece of junk '02 Sebring. But I suppose that if you are buying a 600hp car, the fact that it is a 600hp car is all that matters!
        • 7 Years Ago
        I can tell you've never been in one, Haudi.
          • 7 Years Ago
          Haudi--I can personally tell you that the HVAC controls in the Viper are of a tad higher quality than the lowly Chrysler cars you mentioned.
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