• Aug 10, 2007
Legislators in Massachusetts are set to introduce a bill in October that will ban modified exhausts in the land of a certain tea party and the world's best baked beans. The pious patriots over at SEMA have been fighting this day for years, but the politicians have decided they've had enough with the Flowmasters, already. The proposed law doesn't make a whole lot of sense, as Massachusetts already has a noise ordinance in place, and the bill doesn't even have any clear standard for the law to enforce. Lawmakers want to specifically ban any "exhaust system which has been modified in a manner which will amplify or increase the noise emitted by the exhaust." While we're not all that excited about annoying exhausts that can wake a trauma victim out of a coma, we'd like to see this proposal go the way of the Boston Braves.

[Source: SEMA via Jalopnik]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      It sounds to me like the law is just set up for guys that make their car loud JUST to be loud.

      And seriously, what the hell is going on with our country? We need to stop proposing/passing BS laws and funnel that money to help finish the war(s).
      • 7 Years Ago
      I love the law but it won't matter. I bought a decimeter last year out of curiosity. Currently tuner and tuner wannabes are blasting out 85-95 decibels on normal acceleration measured from inside the house, which is well above noise regs. Law enforcement is ambivalent. The only saving grace is that they are ten to 15 decibels lower than the Harley Davidson.

      Either way, grow-up, understand that the only reaction you get from blowing your flow master are people laughing at you.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Awww poor guy did I hit a button? lol

        In front of a computer or in person doesn't matter. I don't think a dollar a mount has anything to do with what I said on here. What you do with your db meter is up to you. Sad to see you get all worked up over some silly comment. Must be a Canadian thing :D
        • 7 Years Ago
        Recently, I read somewhere that Australia (I believe, but cannot remember which country) has developed the noise equivalent of the intersection photo enforcement camera, but using sound as the measurement to issue a ticket. With calibration becoming easier and quicker the old standby of going to court and using the calibration defense nonsense is quickly coming to an end. Maybe Massachusetts should be looking into installing these sound enforcement devices?
        • 7 Years Ago
        Really thats funny, because I laugh at people like you who go to Radio Shack and blow there money on devices you will never use again.
          • 7 Years Ago
          Loren,

          Why would you share your amuzement with people who buy electronic devices and use them as designed? Seems sort of esoteric sense of humor, but whatever works for you Canadians is fine with me.

          Blow my money on a twenty dollar decimeter! Whoo buddy, break the bank! How would you know how often I use my decimeter?

          I sort of scratch my head at people who have no knowledge of another's experience yet find the need to take a heaping helping of Carnation Instant Asshole, hide behind their computer and take ignorant personal shots at people.

          Do you hang outside Radio Shack laughing your ass off at people purchasing electronics? You must be easily. entertained

      • 7 Years Ago
      "we'd like to see this proposal go the way of the Boston Braves."

      So, you want Georgia to pass the bill instead?
        • 7 Years Ago
        actually, it has to go to Wisconsin (Milwaukee) first, then Georgia.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Let's see, we have a war on nobody wants, economic chaos with oil prices going thru the roof, jobs going out like the Do-Do bird, global warming causing death and destruction, a bunch of religious zealots trying to kill us all, and a political circus going on. I know.... let's go after loud mufflers! Remember this friviolity and who proposed it when you vote!!!!!!!
        • 7 Years Ago
        best reply of the day, if i wasn't at least 3000 miles away (in england) i'd shake your hand
        • 7 Years Ago
        geo.stewart says "I'd rather fight them there than here..." huh - LOL?!? You kidding me? You took that ridiculous talking point seriously? Are you talking another surprise terrorist attack or a fairly manageable group of terrorists coming out of hiding and trying to drop onto our shores for an actual war? You realize they'd get squished, don't you? This is what happens when you listen to politicians feeding you fear for votes. Sheepism is very bad. Use even your basic critical thinking skills; how are some terrorists going to launch a full scale attack on the world's superpower? If you point to 9/11 please notice all the enemy troops died on attack - the war on our soil was over when it started... They going to come on U-Boats or drop from planes? Please tell me how the terrorists are going to fight us here...
        • 7 Years Ago
        Geo.stewart- I'm from New York, where we still have a giant hole in the ground. Don't tell me about not fighting them here you G*****n nitwit!
        • 7 Years Ago
        Dang! I hate to have to take the Off-Topic bait, but...I'd rather fight 'em here. I say this as a veteran and careful observer of how good it is to be able to move freely amongst a supportive population over ground you've known since birth.

        Heck yeah. We could set the tempo. pick the place, use whatever does the most damage and then just blend back into the crowd. Get jobs near their neighborhoods and just wait for opportunity. Let 'em think they've breached security until you have as many in the trap as you can get, then spring it. Etc., etc.

        Their image of americans would go from chickens who don't want to fight to suspecting that every mousy little office worker they saw was secretly a blood thirsty freak who was a serious threat.

        That about telling people how to do their job--if you're screwing up, you're screwing up. Pure fact. Doesn't matter who points it out, it won't change reality.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I can't stand the crossplane crank V8 rice, or straight pipe odd firing V-twin harleys, or craptastic fart mufflers on I4 and Boxing4s.
      If those idiot kids would fix the exhaust manifold first, give your four cylinder exhaust some timbre, then it would be less grating.

      I do sleep with earplugs, 33dB NRR (it takes a week before you get used to them) I like to have the windows cracked, and those damn bugs are annoying. (and that dumbass kids with no muffler NeonSRT4, with blow off whistle) f-ing annoying.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Thank god. Finally. Who wants to hear those loud exhausts anyway? This whole "exhaust" thing has gotten way out of hand. I saw a s@@t-box with a new 4 inch diameter trumpet on the back of it... it was way too loud. And yes. It bothered me at tea time. ;)

      There are great exhaust systems out there that are quite and produce the same amount as those loud crappy pieces.

      Now we need to do something about those choppers.

      I also agree that we need to pass the "stupidity" in our government. I wish we passed that YEARS AGO.
      • 7 Years Ago
      In Soviet Massachusetts, cars puts muffler on YOU!
        • 7 Years Ago
        Noticed the comment about appreciating a quiet Honda, and decided to chime in. Just wanted to let you know that many of the most annoying vehicles you will hear in the "inner city" come from "performance exhausts" on imports, which surprisingly supply no performance gains at all.

        Also, we need to quiet down loud cell phone ringtones, loud talkers, remove horns from vehicles, remove all diesels from the road, quiet down emergency vehicle sirens, and make sure cats don't meow after midnight.

        -Will
        • 7 Years Ago
        I don't know about anyone else, but here in South Florida, we could do with less of these ill conceived fart can muffler mods.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I happen to have lived in Philadelphia for 6 years. Now I live in the suburbs, and the exhausts are just as loud. But I don't care. In fact, it's mostly humorous because the loudest cars are often the slowest, especially in the city.

        Also, I drive a nice new Honda with a free-flowing factory exhaust and a 350w factory sound system. My car is probably louder than the Fords you complain about, and it's straight from the Honda factory in Ontario.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Frank, I think that Soviet comment was a joke. You know, humor? Go take a pill.

        P.S. What does living in the country or city have to do with it? Stopping loud exhaust is what noise ordinances are for. I live in a busy New England town and the cops have a field day with ricers who's cars sound like chainsaws. No need to ban modifications all together, just get an ordinance passed and tell your local PD to do their job.
        • 7 Years Ago
        I just spewed soda all over my laptop! FTW on Soviet Massachusetts. And Frank, it's a joke (sort of). Get over it.
        • 7 Years Ago
        What are you talking about? Soviet Massachusetts? Isn't Mitt "flip-flop" Romney from MA?

        It's guys like you, that live out in the country on a big QUIET spread, that have no clue about how annoying and loud these exhausts are. You guys come into the city in your Ford pickups with glass packs and your Harley's. Like a bunch of drunken fugitives. Blasting through town to go to the mall.

        You try living IN the city, especially in a busy area, where all you hear are these loud exhaust systems ALL the time.

        When you live in the city, you appreciate a quiet Honda wooshing by your apartment building.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I doubt Bush wants the war either, but I'd sure as heck rather have it over there than over here.

      The American public has neither the stomach or understanding of for war. Leave it to the military, the ones who VOLUNTEERED (since we dont have a draft), to handle the business. They dont come in and tell you how to do your job. You dont have a bunch of armchair quarterbacks writing editorials and calling it news.

      • 7 Years Ago
      I guess Mike doesnt know much about trucks and performance. I have seen plenty of diesel and trucks here in TX that can out perform most sports cars. Just because a truck weighs a lot means nothing, if you have a large engine to overcome the weight then whats the problem? o you not have anything better to do with your time than complain because people performance tune trucks or buy them for that matter?
        • 7 Years Ago
        why do people think that a sporty truck can out acelerate a sports car, it automatically equal to better "performance"?
        there's more than aceleration to judge the performance of a sport car.
        if not, no one should buy truck to go fast, just get a old geo metro and throw the biggest engine you can stuff in there.
        also, since midas, and pep boys' exhaust have no disclaimer as for off road only, i think lawyers are warming up to file class-action lawsuit.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You Texans must have really lousy sports cars. Here in MA we have Vipers and Z06s and F50s and even a few Mclaren F1s... my neighbor's Ram SRT-10 just can't compete.

        As for this bill, it's unlikely to pass and unlikely to amount to anything if it does. The cops will still harass the people they always harass, and the guys with Tubis on their Ferraris will be left alone unless they're being completely idiotic.
        • 7 Years Ago
        My 1994 Ford Lightning pulled a .88g on the skid and ran faster than most vehicles on the road at the time, plus with the 351W it was easy to upgrade that sucker into a real fire-breather. So can a truck be a performer? absolutely....
        • 7 Years Ago
        Tell ya what. We'll put up a WRX STi against any pickup truck you can muster. As soon as the twisties come up, those trucks will be in the ditch.
      • 7 Years Ago
      I don't mind the exhaust at all, I just find it humorous to see kids with no taste in cars just throw a can on the back of a 10 year old honda civic and magic happens. What really annoys me is the large population of people in this state that have nextel and think its great to throw your speakerphone all the way up so we can hear your conversations. I see it all the time at stores, supermarkets, you name it, and its the most obnoxious thing. I really think they don't know how to put the phone on silent and do it through the earpiece on the phone, but they just look silly walking around with a big brick of a phone that sounds like someone is talking into a tin can for voice quality. And I'm sure that guy with the nextel is the same guy that has his ford f-250 parked outside with a flowmaster exhaust on it and nothing else, like every other person in MA does. This bill is lame, shouldnt get passed because there way more important things to worry about that how loud an exhaust is. But, like some of you said earlier, there's people out there killing eachother on the street, big dig, home foreclosures, drug trade and other dramatic events, and we are worried about exhaust? Come on people, you must be kidding.
      • 7 Years Ago
      The law is stupid and ridiculous. Why? Because the existing noise ordinance law already covers loud mufflers.

      So what's wrong is not the existing law itself, but the enforcement of the law. Stupid politicians and stupid voters, however, will likely not fathom this.
      • 7 Years Ago
      As a frequent reader and blogger on Autoblog, I am completely astounded at the number of "car enthusiasts" that want this bill to actually pass. I agree that fart pipes can be annoying sometimes, but if we got rid of everything that was annoying in this world...

      I own a 2002 Trans Am, and to hell with anyone who doesn't like my aftermarket Corsa exhaust system. It increases my hp and also makes the car sound better.

      Yeah, a lot of people add loud exhausts to get attention, and I love the attention I get from mine, but I also got the Corsa system because it sounds freaking awesome TO ME.

      This proposal is almost as stupid as the one from New York that would ban the "B" word. America isn't the land of the free anymore. The government has taken away too many of our rights.
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