• Jul 21, 2007

GM may have its difficulties here in the US, but around the globe the General is on pace for its second best sales month ever. Second quarter global sales tolled in at 2.45 million, which bested Juggernaut Toyota by a narrow margin. For the year Toyota is still ahead of GM by 46,000 units, but much of that lead may have been lost after an earthquake in Japan shut-down 12 plants.

GM has done an excellent job of capitalizing on emerging markets like China, where GM is now the largest automaker. In the second quarter, a highest-ever 57-percent of the General's overall sales came from outside the US. GM may be doing well beyond our shores, but to get its turnaround plan to pay off financially, Wagoner's boys will have to make consistent profits in the US. Until then, it doesn't matter who finishes number one, as long as Toyota continues raking in all the dough.

[Source: Freep]



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      • 7 Years Ago
      "ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD TRADE IN HIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE, PAST AND WAY OF LIFE FOR A TRENDY IMPORT. That doesn't mean all Toyota drivers are anti-American. However, a certain percentage far greater than the average Chevy driver is.

      YOU SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO BUY AMERICAN, BUT YOU SHOULD WANT TO IF POSSIBLE."

      AMEN!!!
      • 7 Years Ago
      GM should just stop building and selling cars in the US

      obviously, YOU dumb yanks would rather drive Camrys than Camaros!!
        • 7 Years Ago
        Yup, the Camaro will be built in Oshawa, Ontario, along with the G8 and future large rear-drivers (if they ever show up). The Impala, Monte Carlo, Lacrosse and Grand Prix are all built there, as well as most of 1500-series trucks. The 6.0L LS2 and 5.3L LS4, as well as the high-feature 2.8 and 3.6 sixes are built in St. Catharines, Ontario.

        Basically, if it's a reliable GM vehicle, it came out of Oshawa. If it's a competitive-class GM engine (excepting the LS7) it came out of St. C.

        Hey, did you know the 300C/Magnum/Charger are Canadian-built, too?

        I've seen a few "Go America!" on this thread. I think Go Canada!" is probably more appropriate.
      Bryan
      • 7 Years Ago
      Go GM! As I signed on to AOL earlier I saw a story on the top 10 selling cars with room. Guess what? The Impala whooped the Accord in June by about 7k units. GM and Ford are on their way back!
        • 7 Years Ago
        @Bryan
        But... but... wait... I thought the General was dying a slow painful death... at least according to the "expert" readers of Autoblog.

        The earthquake comment was b.s., GM did this without the help of mother nature. I'm glad to see the rest of the world still thinks the General puts out quality products. I'm sick and tired of people trashing something like the Aura and still saying that the Camry is better. My favorite is "cheap plastic interiors." Hello!? 80% of the cars on the market have plastic interiors... the Camcord is no different. The interior quality of all three are on par with each other while the exterior of the Aura is way more stylish than any Jap manufacturer, save maybe Mazda, can make on a four door family sedan.

        Losing the number 1 spot to Toyota this past year was the best thing to ever happen to the General. The giant has finally awoke from his slumber... he's angry, he's rested, and he wants the top of his hill back. I have a feeling the end of year 2007 numbers will look a lot like this report.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Oh, and I completely disagree on how the earthquakes is the cause of GM overtaking Toyota. Who the hell came up with that idea?...Yeah, a couple of days is all it takes for GM to overtake Toyota in sales...idiots.
        • 7 Years Ago
        ", and I completely disagree on how the earthquakes is the cause of GM overtaking Toyota. Who the hell came up with that idea?...Yeah, a couple of days is all it takes for GM to overtake Toyota in sales...idiots."


        There`s always a thin a** excuse for Toyotas` cracks in so called perfection.
        • 7 Years Ago
        whofan, I don't think it was Toyota who made that excuse...I think its just bad reporting, someone must have just threw in their idea.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You may want to check out "market Watch:
        "Toyota's production suspension since July 19 has resulted in an output loss of about 46,000 vehicles so far, the spokesman said." It's uncertain if they will resume production on Tuesday.
      Nick
      • 7 Years Ago
      I'm extremely proud of GM and it's efforts, not shooting down toyota or anything but GO AMERICA!!! GM has what it takes to succeed it just needs to search within itself for that long since buried talent.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Mr. Barney:

      I like your kind. sitting there in the dark. Hillman?

      1.8 million GMT 800 vehicles per year in the US is a real number. GMT900 set to outpace the 800. How many Land Crusiers/Seqouias/Tundras will Toyota sell.

      Acadia - Defensive
      Enclave - Defensive
      Outlook - Defensive
      GMT 900 - Defensive
      Aura - Defensive
      Malibu - Defensive
      CTS - Defensive
      Solstice - Defensive
      Corvette Z07 - Ultra Defensive

      Upcoming Defensive moves:

      Rwd Impala
      RWD G8
      Camaro
      Cadillac Flagship 16? 12?
      Volt

      I would say the Ford motor company is on the defensive. Toyota ought to be on the defensive , with the garbage they puting out in the last 5 or so years.

      Sludge mobiles
      Busted ball joints
      Snapping Camshafts

      Of course none of this is Toyota's fault, the suppliers are always to blame. One day, the light will come on in the room.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Toyota IS outselling GM. That is fact. GM has to work a lot harder and find more markets to be ahead. Use what ever IFs or SOMEDAYs, fact is fact. Maybe GM will be on top but never for long. Yes Toyota has had troublesome cars but don't keep denying GM has not. Their vans are lemons and they had bad V8s. It seems you only see one side of the coin and that is a signature of a fool. Toyota is ahead for a reason.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Hey, how 'bout them plastic intake manifolds? Has GM even addrssed those yet? Or the DEXCOOL maintenance schedule problem (which bears quite a lot of similarity to Toyota's sludging issue--both are maintenance-related).

        The design error sword is double-edged. Careful how you wield it.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Perhaps this shows that GM's new products are getting attention; they are making great strides and putting out great cars. Before someone tries to say I am an ignorant Detroit lover, let me just say that I am not biased at all. I actually drive a BMW, yet as a true auto enthusiast I can look at GM and see many great things....2008 Cadillac CTS, 2008 Corvette, Saturn Sky, Pontiac G8, etc.

      It seems like a shift has been made at GM to focus more on quality than on quantity; this is even made evident by Lutz's recent discussion on them not trying to chaise the #1 position that Toyota had taken.

      So, before some of you start yelling "GM sucks," maybe you should go test drive one of their newest offerings and see what the new GM is all about: well-built, well designed, and actually competitive.
      • 7 Years Ago
      ""a highest-ever 57-percent of the General's overall sales came from outside the US""

      75% of last year's sales of Toyota came from outside the Japan!!!!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Both Tony and Honda Lover should maybe move to Japan since they love those ugly craptastic mobiles so much. Detroit has and always will build the best vehicles on Planet Earth.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Guys, let's keep politics out of the discussion. Yes, there is a lot of Chinese anger towards Japan over the last Sino-Japanese war, but times change and wounds heal. European luxury makes sell well in Japan because Japanese consumers have a hard time relating Toyotas and Hondas to the upscale market. That is why Lexus sales are flat and Acura has yet to be launched in Japan.

      GM's foreign sales are very strong, and its existing vehicles (outgoing models) are available at discount prices, whereas medium-size Toyota, Honda, and Nissan family sedans can run more than thirty grand. A Camry Hybrid will give you excellent mileage, but also tug $34,000 from your savings. You can buy a Chevy Malibu with a V-6 for $22,000 or a Cobalt SS for $20,000. They aren't the best-in-class cars, but they are a good deal for the money.
        • 7 Years Ago
        America is the only nation without a memory. Mainly because we are spoiled and disconnected but also because of the various ethnicities in our nation. You obvioulsy haven't done much travelling oversees. Most nations and cultures remember the past far better than Americans. Asian nations hold true animosity twards each other. Greeks would never buy a Turkish car and Arabs would never buy a Jewish car...

        ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD TRADE IN HIS COUNTRY, PEOPLE, PAST AND WAY OF LIFE FOR A TRENDY IMPORT. That doesn't mean all Toyota drivers are anti-American. However, a certain percentage far greater than the average Chevy driver is.

        YOU SHOULDN'T BE FORCED TO BUY AMERICAN, BUT YOU SHOULD WANT TO IF POSSIBLE.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Being a resident of India I am pretty much oblivious about the intensity of competiton in the USA-the cesspool of the automotive world (though frequent media reports do give me a vivid picture).Here in India-touted as the future mass-market in event of slackening growth which even today shows significant rate of growth(currently the third largest market in Asia and a car poulation ratio of 2;1000),GM is far more aggresive than it's Japanese rival-Toyota;having burnt it's hands initially with the Opel brand;GM has not flinched back and has enjoyed considerable amount of success with the Chevrolet brand;which has been an outcome of launching"value for money"products and most importantly bringing in products which cater to the unique and indigenous tastes of the population of India;the visit of the top honcho-Richard Wagoner to India when the first small car-Chevrolet Spark(it is going to lauch another small car in 2008 and sales of small cars amount to nearly 70% of the toal annual sales in the country) was launched,setting up a research and development centre in Banglore and announcing plans to invest more than 2500 crores to build a new plant in Maharashtra with an inital capacity of 1 lac cars do potray GM's intention to be a serious player in the Indian market.Although GM like it's nemesis Toyota is still a fringe player in India,each occupying less than 5% market share of the country's more than million strong automotive market;unlike it's Japanese counterpart GM has firm plans to set up a concrete and an evident base over here.Inspite of being flush with funds and enjoying a tremondous goodwill in India ,Toyota isn't quite eager to enter the Indian market with aplomb,on the other hand GM inspite of being faced with myriad issues like declining profitability(it's American counterpart Ford facing similar problem dosen't have any concrete plans to launch any of it's new products),disastrous debut in the country with the Opel brand and relative unawreness about many of it's autoimotive brands among the masses,GM has held it's own and has believed in the creditibility and the future potential of the market;and inspite of facing numerous hindrances and impediments GM has treaded upon the path which shall ultimately open the doors of success for it and that its persevarance with the market is ultimately going to pay off very well.Similar efforts undertaken by GM around a decade back has led to it witnessing stupendous and copious amounts of success in the Chinese market where it is the market leader currently,with Toyota lagging far behind.With labilities like health-care and pension costs;partial benefit enjoyed by Toyota of producing in its relatively inexpensive home market or with a younger force in the USA ,GM's home market has been more or less been an unfair indication of the the respective strenghts of these automotive giants(in no way underestimaing Toyota's focus on quality and is bewieldering rise over these past few decades).That GM has managed to be aggresive in newer markets identifying them as future potential markets and inspite of uncountable setbacks and disadvatages in the home market ;that GM has been able to obtain the cult tag of the world's largest automaker is nothing but surprising.


























      • 7 Years Ago
      jwgirardot @ Jul 21st 2007 10:32PM

      Do you realize that in 9 out of the top 10 markets in the world, GM outsells Toyota?

      Are you attempting to say thay Toyota is outselling all others because mostly Japanese are buying them?
        • 7 Years Ago
        2 million Toyota sales in Japan and yet Toyota is only leading GM by 45,000 units, you do the math...

        Heck, 45,000 cars is less than the number of fleet sales that GM has cut in recent years. Anyone know what Toyota has been doing with fleet sales while GM & Ford are cutting them?
        • 7 Years Ago
        "GM is only just expanding into markets like India & South Africa. Toyota has been there since the dawn of time."

        No mention of China nor the other subsidiary car companies GM owns. I guess you forgot. Seeing GM has bee around since the "Dawn of time" and Toyota is only fifty years old, one may ask what GM has been doing.

        The race for the top is ridiculous and we are cheering for who makes most profit. A bit stupid when you think as a consumer, we are filling their pockets. So what if Toyota, GM or Ford are making more cars. Cars are not getting cheaper.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Derek: That and the fact that Toyota ascended to #1 by buying companies like Subaru, Isuzu etc., which GM had just purged from it's portfolio.

        Within the last two years, Toyota didn't literally outsell GM to get to #1, they actually busy "out-buying" them.

        GM is only just expanding into markets like India & South Africa. Toyota has been there since the dawn of time.

        In the US, there are certain demographics that will exclusively but Japanese cars, that is until they can afford the German cars.
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