http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/ Autoblog Comments for http://www.autoblog.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.autoblog.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/Jun 28th 2007 11:05AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/The time quoted is only the time that the fuel is cut (under peak clutch overlap). So apples to oranges.
You are still looking at an ~150-250ms 'shift' time. From the time clutch one starts coming out, and that half of the transmission is shifted to neutral, to the time clutch two is fully engaged.

240ps is more likely, 240hp@8000rpm is 157.5ft-lbs, only dropping 2.5 ft-lbs over 1000 rpm, 240ps is still a remarkable 5ft-lbs over 1000rpm.

lose the wing, get an M3 type spoiler.

That FXX must be taking extra strength ex-lax, wow.]]>Jun 28th 2007 11:57AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/
I'm looking at May's C/D right now and the GTI they tested, a four door with a 6-speed (not DSG) is priced at $29k and change. Granted it's still almost $10k below what Honda is asking or this Civic Type-R. However, one should keep in mind they are only making 300 examples, some of which are probably going to be added to collections.

On the other side when one considers that Japan's tax structure on automobiles is based on litre displacement there might be a trade off when considering other cars with V6s that make as much power.

I dunno, I'm just trying to rationalize. Me personally, if I were in Japan, I would get a Mazdaspeed3. Exclusivity be damned]]>Jun 28th 2007 11:36AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/Jun 29th 2007 9:57AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/Jun 28th 2007 11:15AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/Jun 28th 2007 11:19AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/
for 38,000, I'd expect them to drop the Civic body onto a stretched S2000 driveline. THAT would be nifty....]]>Jun 28th 2007 11:19AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/Jun 28th 2007 11:19AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/
Actually, kids probably spend this much on their 1993 Civics after all the body kits and engine work.]]>Jun 28th 2007 11:23AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/
Here's a case where I guess I don't get it, and have no desire to "Get It".

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Its sad that Honda's performance division (mugen) is now better known for their cosmetic items than performance parts. This car would have been much better off as a competition model....simplified with an emphasis on handling and performance. If they wanted to make the car lighter, they should have started with getting rid of the body kit and wing. Instead, install an aluminum hood, trunk and roof panel. The car would easily be 60-80 pounds lighter and lower the center of gravity.
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The Gen I and II Taurus SHO redlined at 8500 with a proper tune. It made 225 HP and 220 lb/ft of torque, with a V6 engine that's 20 years old now, that would still cost well less than $38K from the factory.

And that wasn't even a tuner car.]]>Jun 28th 2007 12:29PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/
I can't really see any reason for anyone to spend more then $26-27k on this car.]]>Jun 28th 2007 12:10PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/06/28/official-japan-gets-honda-civic-mugen-rr/
I have to ask though, couldn't they have saved even more weight with single exhaust. It is still just an N/A 4-banger.]]>Jun 28th 2007 12:27PM