VIDEO: Popular Mechanics drives the 2008 clean diesel Jetta

Hybrid-electric cars are seen by many as the most effective way of saving the environment, while diesels are often shunned as being dirty, smog-producing motors designed for trucks. This anti-diesel view couldn't be further from the truth. Modern diesel engines in many cases offer superior mileage to their hybrid counterparts and, with the latest exhaust particulate filters, are just as clean, too.
Paul Eisenstein from Popular Mechanics (didn't he found The Car Connection?) managed to get an exclusive test-drive of one of Volkswagen's 2008 Jetta Diesel prototypes. The car is running VW's brand-spanking new clean diesel technology in the form of a 2.0L four cylinder common-rail diesel engine that will meet the Tier 2 Bin 5 emissions standards for all 50 US states. Check out the video after the jump. The VW guy talking is a bit preachy, but the new Jetta Diesel is an important product for the coming diesel revolution. Since the U.S. market is used to seeing diesel-powered Volkswagens running about, we doubt it will make as big a splash in the marketplace as Honda's Diesel Accord or GM's half-ton pickups with the new 4.5L V8 Diesel Duramax, but it's great to see this hybrid humbling little car back on sale after its short hiatus.
[Source: Popular Mechanics]







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Daniel 6:17PM (6/19/2007)
Diesel Good.
Hybrid Good.
Diesel-Hybrid Better!!!
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Daniel 6:26PM (6/19/2007)
Ya know the funny thing is - teh first company to offer a "Diesel-Hybrid" that gets about 65 mpg to 85 mpg is going to make a lot of money. So which company will it be?
Ford Reflex sound about right?
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nagmashot 1:54AM (6/20/2007)
Audi...they did the first diesel hybrid in 1997 with the audi A4 duo (1.9TDI + 21kW electro engine)... during a time no one was interested in such stuff.. the car completly floped and after only 90 ordered cars Audi droped it..
Jim 6:31PM (6/19/2007)
"this hybrid humbling little car"
It may humble the hybrids, but I doubt anything can humble many hybrid owners.
Can't wait to see the TDi Jetta Wagon in the showroom. Maybe even with DSG!
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Don 10:00PM (6/19/2007)
Ouch. That was vicious.
But both funny and true.
Turbofrog 6:38PM (6/19/2007)
Yeah, I've never understood why there's been no company making diesel hybrids. It really seems like the best of all worlds.
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ruggels 7:32PM (6/19/2007)
It's pretty simple if you read any interviews with toyota or audi heads on the topic, cost. lots of people say they want them, few people will pay a $6,000-$10,000 premium for one.
epilonious 7:48PM (6/19/2007)
to expand on Ruggel's excellent point...
Gasoline engines minded for economy have good acceleration, good cruising efficiency, and horrendously bad torque meaning bad from-stop performance
Electric motors have near-infinite torque when starting from a stop, but lose torque and horsepower steadily as they accelerate... The electrical system to feed these motors in a hybrid context also tend to be expensive.
Diesel motors have very, very good low end torque, but very bad acceleration (low revs), and are often turbocharged to get just 100 HP from a 2.0 Liter which makes them expensive.
So, a Diesel hybrid means you get all the cost of an electric booster setup with all the cost of a turbocharged Diesel to help the Diesel where it doesn't really need it.
Meanwhile, the main issue with Gasoline Electric hybrids is crappy battery technology. Good high density batteries weigh a ton, and light high density batteries have memory issues that means for 10 years of use you can only get them to a certain charge level and have to manage them constantly. So, there is a good chance that as batteries improve hybrids will get better and better mileage.
In the meantime, there are already several Diesel hybrids: locomotives and heavy ships have 3 or 4 two-stroke diesel engines (about 1000 ft-lbs each) to run generators to feed massive electric drive motors :)
Dave 11:46PM (6/19/2007)
http://www.hybrid-vehicles.net/gm-allison-hybrid-bus.htm
JayP 6:41PM (6/19/2007)
I'll take a GTi diesel... or GTd or whatever.
Just throw a little dieselAudiTDiLeMansR10 in the DNA.
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John 6:46PM (6/19/2007)
Rather than a 2.0 Diesel VW getting 50 mpg, I would love to buy a Jetta 1.0 V2 diesel hybrid getting 80 mpg.
V-Twin has great torque and is very good for packaging a hybrid component next to it. A 1 liter V2 engine could make about 60hp and 120 torque if you divide up the 2 liter engine's numbers in half.
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epilonious 7:39PM (6/19/2007)
a V2 Diesel? The motor mounts alone would have to be $500 pieces of technology to not shake the car and/or passengers to bits....
There is a reason Harleys are mostly solid-state
John 7:51PM (6/19/2007)
Lets not talk Harleys as they are not very well built machines. No wonder they dont come with tool kits. They come with repair kits instead because they break down all the time.
V Twins can be very very smooth. Honda and Yamaha have used them for ages. The packaging is great and it also has very good torque characteristics. It can really work.
A hybrid just needs a generator on the side to make electricity. A V Twin is more than up to the task.
Cecil 7:55PM (6/19/2007)
I have thought about this as well. Why cant the front end of a car be a huge electric motor powering the car. Then on the side somewhere or in the trunk or somewhere tucked away have a small engine supplying power to it. A 1 liter bike motor on a cruiser makes about 80hp. Thats 70 kilowatts of electricity. More than enough to supply power constantly even without the need of any batteries.
MikeW 10:25PM (6/19/2007)
V-twin engines are odd firing.
Boxing twin engines are even firing. So are inline two
http://www.timberwoof.com/motorcycle/V-TWIN-7.html
Hopefully VW will get a 7 speed double [wet] clutch
5,10,15,20,25,30,35 mph / 1,000 rpm top speed ~130 in 7th gear sounds nice, eat that prius.
Isn't the mechanical coupling speed in the prius~75mph
epilonious 7:52AM (6/20/2007)
If you're going to go on-and-on about full series hybrids (motor in the front, generator in the back)... the obvious choice for the generator is a turbine of some sort. It can run on anything from ethanol to fuel oil, has one speed and one moving part with no harmonics to deal with. They don't even have to be that costly if you start cranking them out.
In the meantime, Toyota and GM (EV1 series hybrid, look it up) already did the research with full series hybrids and found out that WAY too much energy was being lost with speed variances and the triple-conversion (generator batteries motor) and found it was more efficient to just strap the gasoline motor directly into the drivetrain for highway cruising with a bit of power generation on the side. (Cheaper too).
José María 6:48PM (6/19/2007)
Toyota and Citroen are already developin diesel-hybrid models http://www.motorauthority.com/index.php?s=toyota+diesel+hybrid You can submit this story in http://allaboutcars.corank.com
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ruggels 7:32PM (6/19/2007)
BMW too.
rip 6:50PM (6/19/2007)
Nice, but I want an Audi A5 with the 3.2tdi. Or maybe the 4 liter :)
Gimme.
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Darrell 8:57PM (6/19/2007)
biodiesel even better. not a factoid but personal experience going to B100 got a 76% drop in emissions.
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