• Jun 18th 2007 at 6:06PM
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Current 6 pictured above


Last month we speculated, but now we're pretty sure. Winding Road (via "the Republic of Moldova's premier automobile website", Auto.tihai.md), has learned that the all-new, next-gen Mazda6 will officially debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show this fall. European sales should then follow promptly in November. We think the new 6 will be based on the new Ford Mondeo platform, but should still be more of a niche player that emphasizes sporty driving characteristics. The Mazda6 has never sold in the same volumes as the Camry/Accord, but still manages to find buyers who appreciate the Zoom Zoom experience, even in a family vehicle. No news has been issued about which bodystyles will make the jump to the new platform or whether or not a new Mazdaspeed6 will appear based on this next generation. The current Mazda6 lineup includes sedan, hatch, wagon and Mazdaspeed versions. Whichever models carry over, we expect (hope?) some version of Ford's 3.5L Cyclone V6 will be offered in the top models, and a 2.5L four-cylinder in the base 6.

[Source: Carscoop via Winding Road]


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      • 8 Years Ago
      Wonder if that 3.5 will make the new 6 just as nose-heavy as the 3.0 did. The 6 is a nice car but Mazda sorta missed on a few counts - lack of power, poor balance, tight interior.
      • 8 Years Ago
      "resembling the Mazda3 5-door. I prefer hatches (I hate trunks), but the 6 wagon is just too...wagonish for my tastes. "

      But the 3 5-door is almost as frumpy, yet lacks the useful roof rack. The 6 5-door has almost as much cargo space as the wagon with seats down (22/58 vs. 34/60 ft^3), and significantly more than the 3 (17/44), plus the rear seats fold almost flat, which the 3's don't. If the 3 5-door looked like the 3 sedan or the 6 5-door, it would have been no contest; but last month's incentives made a 6i Touring with an aftermarket sunroof installed only $150 more than a similarly equipped 3s Touring with the Moonroof and CD-changer package. So having gone in with the idea of buying a 3, I chose the better-looking car with more space for gear. The drecky spoiler which is standard on US models proved easily removable, although I do hate paying extra for standard accessories which look like crap and serve no useful purpose, not to mention hit the ceiling of my garage. While the sunroof was being installed I had a 3 5-door as a loaner for a week, and I certainly could have lived with choosing it, even preferring some things while disliking others.

      Coming from a 12-year-old 626 V6, I would be hard pressed to say the 6i doesn't feel as powerful, and it handles better, though not as well as the 3s. But for my needs and preferences, it was a better compromise. And I don't think there's anything close to either available in the US market.
        • 8 Years Ago
        "But the 3 5-door is almost as frumpy, yet lacks the useful roof rack. The 6 5-door has almost as much cargo space as the wagon with seats down (22/58 vs. 34/60 ft^3), and significantly more than the 3 (17/44), plus the rear seats fold almost flat, which the 3's don't.

        I don't know if it is the actual rear overhang or an illusion of the rear glass length, but the 6 and a lot of other traditional wagons (3-Series Wagon, Subaru Legacy, etc) look a lot frumpier than the abbreviated Mazda3 and its predecessor, the Protege5.

        I like the 6 5-door, too, with my major issue being that I own four dogs, and a more upright liftgate/hatch thing makes them easier to load.

        Either way, I really, really hope Mazda nails this car.
      Bryan
      • 8 Years Ago
      My reason for the 6 not selling in more volume is because of its size. Its just too small. And it feels and looks small. Complete opposite of the the 3.
        • 8 Years Ago
        @Bryan
        Yeah, the 6 is "small", but as a current 6 owner I would loathe to see this car grow into a bloated ugly mess that the Camry and Accord have turned into.
      • 8 Years Ago
      I bought one of the first Mazda6s sold in the US back in November 02. The car has been great for almost 5 years and 70K miles. It drives well, the interior is very well designed (if a little chintzy). It's even great in the snow (a particular concern here in Chicago). As a life-long Honda owner, I was somewhat worried about the Mazda's reliability, but it's been rock solid.

      Also, where do people get that the V6 version is "nose heavy"? Perhaps compared to the 4cyl, but it's certainly not nose heavy compared to any other V6 FWD family sedan. To me, the power and refinement gain of the V6 over the 4cyl is substantial. The trade off is worth it.

      The one knock against the 6 I have: the 3.0 isn't quite up to snuff against Honda's or Toyota's engines in refinement or Nissan's engines in power. That was true even when I bought the car and Honda and Toyota have continued to improve. Also, the V6 sucks fuel. It gets surprisingly bad mileage. This didn't bother me when gas was $1.50 a gallon, now... it's not so cool.

      Anyway, very excited about the new one. If they make a 4WD wagon with a fuel-efficient/powerful V6, I'll probably buy it after I've run my current 6 into the ground (should take a while). I'm officially a Mazda convert at this point.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Do we know if Mazda will offer a manual transmission with the V-6 in the next 6? I sure hope so. And I hope that the car isn't too nose-heavy.
      • 8 Years Ago
      @ bgdc


      The mazdaspeed 6 dident lack power.
        • 8 Years Ago
        Mazdaspeed6 had a whole host of other issues:

        1. Overweight.
        2. Haldex FWD-bias AWD system
        3. Poor gearing - no freeway cruising gear
        4. Crappy clutch
        5. Peaky engine - same engine that hamstrings the Mazdaspeed3 and CX-7.
      • 8 Years Ago
      My biggest bitch is the turning circle, which affects the driving experience many times a day. Then mileage, but wasn't so bad last weekend on a trip to Chicago with hours spent idling/creeping in traffic but still yielding close to 25 mpg. All actual open road speed was about 10 mph over, or 75-80. This in a 6 wagon, listed at 3400# empty, about 4000 loaded in our case.
      The silver painted plastic interior trim is cheap looking. The grey vinyl needs some warmth, like Toyota uses in the Camry. The black vinyl/ABS isn't as rich as that in the 3 or MX5. The red gauges are invisible at dawn or dusk. Otherwise, we like it.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Does this mean that the next gen fusion/milian/mkz will be based of the ford mondeo? I thought Ford felt it was too expensive to bring to the US?
      • 8 Years Ago
      Now if Mazda could just market the Mazda 3 or Mazda 6 in a 2 door coupe or 2 door hatchback, I'd be at the dealer tomorrow. It's difficult to think of anything with 4 doors as "Zoom-Zoom". 4 door cars rank up there with the minivan on the ole' stodgy meter (and it don't matter if it's got 500hp).

      • 8 Years Ago
      It is anoying to keep reading the "new 6 will be based on the Mondeo platform" when it is the other way around, Mondeo (and Volvo S60 and upcoming Jaguar X-type) is based on a modified version (CD3-2) of the original Mazda6 platform (CD3). Pretty obvious - not to the journalists that write about it.

      Here in Sweden the 6 has been a constant test winner, especially in driving dynamics. Just recently it bet
      the BMW 3-series, new VW Passat, Accord, Subaru Legacy and just about every car in this segment in a comparison.
      So it is obviously still not outdated as someone on this forum referred to.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Ben, thanks for the tip about the 3.7 in the cx9. I would love to see this in the 6 but my bet stays with the 3.5 as lincoln will be getting a 3.7 version of the duratec (probably the same engine in the revised cx9). In any case im looking forward to this car, I only hope it has the same handling attitude with a little more speed.
      • 8 Years Ago
      My wife drives a Mazda6 and it's a wonderful car. We have the 4-cyl and I think it has plenty of get-up and go for being a 4400lbs car w/ a 4-banger. And driving in SoCal, you need to be able to do things quickly when driving :)
        • 8 Years Ago
        The greatest enemy to the Mazda6 is sitting only a few feet away at the dealership- the Mazda3! I've spoken with several Mazda employees and dealership employees who have admitted this to me. I've also met numerous folks online who were interested in the Mazda6, but drove off the lot in the Mazda3 instead. The driving dynamics are as good or better in most areas and the 2.3L Mazda3 feels as powerful in most driving situations as the 3.0L Mazda6.

        I had decided on the Mazda6 when I was shopping back in 12/05. The most balanced and fun to drive version, save the Mazdaspeed6 of course, was the 2.3L Mazda6 i Sport with 5-speed manual. I liked the feel of it better than than the manual 3.0L version costing thousands more.

        It was only when I was unable to locate the color combination (Lapis Blue or White with black interior) I wanted that I decided to try out the 3. I went with the 5-door Touring version of the 3 with manual transmission. Loving every minute of it.

        The current 6 is a very good car, but they could make it an incredible car if they can create a mid-sizer as good as the 3. Instead of a nose-heavy V6, the turbo 2.3L makes a lot of sense. It works well with the automatic in the CX-7. Then give us a Mazdaspeed version with twin turbos and well over 300hp? =)
        • 8 Years Ago
        The heaviest Mazda6 with a four-banger is under 3300 lbs., not 4400
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