• Jun 15, 2007
All indications are that Ford will be dumping the Navistar diesels it's used in its Super Duty pickups almost forever in favor of an in-house-developed diesel sometime around the end of the decade. Apparently undaunted by the quality issues that Ford has repeatedly experienced with the Navistar engines, Nissan appears ready to step into the breach and pick up the supply for the Titan pickup.

Since it appears that Nissan won't be developing a heavy duty version of the Titan, it's not clear at this point if it will use the current 6.4L V-8 that Ford uses or the smaller engine that Navistar had developed for the light-duty Fords. Most likely it will be the latter engine, and it may be available for 2009. Nissan, as expected, won't comment on future products -- except when they do (they previously announced a diesel Maxima for 2010).

[Source: Pickuptruck.com]

UPDATE: Mike Levine at Pickuptruck.com spoke with Nissan spokesperson John Schilling who told him, "We haven't announced anything about a diesel engine for the Titan. This news is speculation at this point, but we are continuing to study this technology for potential future use. The only vehicle we've said that will have a diesel engine is the Maxima in 2010."


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      • 7 Years Ago
      I tend to cut most commenters some slack with poor syntax or spelling, since most people are typing their comments rapidly and adding them without proofreading. I'll admit, though, it's much tougher to read a comment when it lacks punctuation and contains numerous typos, which often all conspire to obscure the tone and/or meaning of the comment.

      What really sticks in my craw is people using profanity, or adding an extra "o" to the word "losing" to make "loosing".

      Oh yeah...a diesel Titan? If the speculation turns out to be true, it's a good idea. Perhaps Navistar just hated Ford and were trying to sabotage their full-size truck dominance...just more speculation!
      • 7 Years Ago
      FORD = found dead on road

      and that aint too far off the truth
      • 7 Years Ago
      Renault has great Diesels. Take two I4 2.0l engines (130hp to 173hp) and combine them to a 90° V8. 260 to 346hp would be quite enough, the development would be easy and cheap and everyone is happy.
      far jr
      • 7 Years Ago
      Other than the fuel economy, the current Titan engine is excellent. I will check out the diesel to replace my Titan, but they better improve quality on the rest of the truck first!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Sounds like Navistar is trying its damndest to make sure it stays viable after possibly losing the Ford contract.
        • 7 Years Ago
        You do realize Dan that Navistar puts out more medium duty trucks then any other maker.
        • 7 Years Ago
        It's "Don", and no...I didn't realize that. But then again Ford is a big contract.
      • 7 Years Ago
      #7, #9: No, I cannot spell "FORD DIESEL". In the 1970s the took Peugeot's XD88 to propel the early Granada and Taunus, in the 1980s they took Peugeot's XD2 to propel the Sierra and Granada. In the 1990s they took Peugeot's XD3 to motorize the Scorpio. In the later 1990s they took the VM 425 to give the Scorpio adequate power.

      Now many of they cars use the Peugeot developed I4s (1.4l, 1.6l, 2.0l, 2.2l). Only the V6 and later the V8 derivatives of the Peugeot engines were developed by Ford and are produced at their Dagenham plant.

      There are still some diesel engines of Ford origin around (1.8l, 2.2l), but they are prone to head gasket and steering chain trouble and won't be there for a long time.

      Ford joined an alliance with PSA, which is not a bad thing, but the resulting engines are not "FORD DIESEL".
        • 7 Years Ago
        Mattias- What does a grab-bag full of European market 4cylinders have to do with what I said????

        "Only the V6 and later the V8 derivatives of the Peugeot engines were developed by Ford and are produced at their Dagenham plant."

        The only Ford engine I made mention of was the very motor you refer to as being developed by Ford. Never mind the fact I made no mention as to who may or may not have developed it.
        If I sound defensive it's only because some Besserwisser implied that I don't know what I'm talking about.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Navistar should rot in hell and go bankrupt. FORD saved them in '79. FORD will no longer save them.... I really hope they go bankrupt. Can you say FORD DIESEL
        • 7 Years Ago
        "FORD saved them in '79. "

        Your not really an idiot, right Frank/ You just seem that way. International/Navistar was saved by Ford in 1979? care to enlighten?
      • 7 Years Ago
      If nissan needs a diesel they should look to ISUZU GM did the duramax is made by ISUZU a far better dont temp faith
        • 7 Years Ago
        Now you only need some commas here and there and you'r good to go, eheheheheh. I kid, I kid. :)

        Well, I hope they have better luck than Ford...
      Bryan
      • 7 Years Ago
      For one, Bernie, if Nissan's were so great they wouldn't have nearly bit the dust in 99. Bulletproof? Thats why my friends 90's Altima is dead in the driveway as her mothers 02 falls apart, has electrical problems shorting out the headlight, rattles a plenty, and the worst interior road noise since the 70's. As for the diesel, no one ever said Nissan was smart. Ford gave Navistar another chance to make up for the disasterous 6.0, and they failed. Let junk be with junk, let Nissan have them!
        • 7 Years Ago
        @Bryan
        Brian,

        It's nice to see someone post some truth into this.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Guess I'll be waiting another year to replace my 04 Titan work truck with a 101,000 miles on her. Great truck and If you would to learn more feel free to visit http://www.titantruckz.com/ and I'll be happy to chat with you.
      • 7 Years Ago
      There's no way Nissan will just take an International Powerstroke right out of the box like Ford did. Nissan engineers will work with Navistar engineers to create a thoroughly spec'ed and tested powertrain.

      Say what you will about Nissan's quality ratings: Their powertrains over the past 30 years have been bulletproof.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Let's just come to an understanding that this is a good step. More diesel pickups is a good thing. Who can hate a full-size V-8 pickup averaging (in the real-world) 20 mpg instead of the typical 14 or 15?
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