• Jun 4, 2007
We talked about this back in January and have been hearing about it as long ago as 2005, but Honda seems set to make it official. There will be no new Accord Hybrid in their lineup. Instead the North American market will get a diesel Accord to fight the mileage wars. Honda will still develop hybrids for the Civic and "another subcompacts currently under development" according to Nihon Keizai Shimbun, but don't expect a hybrid Accord. Midsize and larger vehicles will go the oil-burner route with Honda's new clean diesels that we expect to see in 2009.

The diesel in the Accord will likely be an ultra-clean four-cylinder rumored to be in the 2.2 - 2.4L range and capable of meeting California's strict Tier II / Bin 5 standards, which are the toughest diesel emissions standards in the world. While horsepower isn't likely to match the outgoing V6 hybrid, torque and fuel mileage should be more than a match. For those that still need a little more power, Honda is also working on a diesel V6 that will first appear in the Ridgeline and then find its way into Honda's vans and SUVs. While the Germans have been advancing the acceptance of diesels for years, a mainstream player like Honda will really push the technology to the forefront in North America.

[Source: Forbes]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      We will hopefully have diesel/hybrids soon. Volvo is working on a diesel hybrid C30.
      http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/30/volvo-c30-hybrid-concept/
      • 7 Years Ago
      Hondas lead engineer on developing these new diesels demanded the opportunity to throw out all known designs and build engines from the ground up. This is why Honda stays competitive with Toyota. They compete, but also excel in niches of their own.

      Toyota focused on hybrid first, Honda diesel, I am sure the two technologies will intersect at some point.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Good riddance to the Accord Hybrid. It was a rare misstep for Honda.

      Here's a cute ad for Honda's diesels in the UK.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvuVSnu_DuI

      Here's a good video about the 2.2L i-CTDi.
      http://world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2003-4030226_1a/
      • 7 Years Ago
      Go go Honda! Start the diesel revolution!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Great to hear what sounds like an official confirmation on the Honda Accord diesel we have been hearing about for some time. As for the death of the Accord Hybrid, well it it always seemed like it was one of those things that was a good idea, but executed poorly. It would cost thousands more than a regular Accord, and only achieve a few mpg more. Toyota's Camry Hybrid achieves 38/40 mpg EPA, a milestone for a car of its size. I just don't know what Honda was thinking. Also, the car never stood out. In today's market, cars can't just be "good enough", they have to be a star, or they wind up lost in the shuffle.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Oh, and its funny. I never really paid attention to diesel prices before... but it can now be had for around $2.70 - whereas prices are JUST starting to fall below the $3/gal mark on gasoline.

      I mean, I would'nt have cared even if it was more expensive (since you go a lot farther on a gallon of diesel anyway), but seeing that just makes me more tempted. Of course, it might not necessarily stay that way once more and more people get diesels (increase demand), but I'm sure production will also change as well.
        • 7 Years Ago
        Diesel prices fluctuate with the home heating oil season.. In winter it costs more (sometimes much more) than gasoline, in summer it costs less (sometimes a lot less). I typically find diesel costing more than premium gas in winter, less than regular gas in summer.
      • 7 Years Ago
      This may just be the future engine of my '78 toyota landcruiser. I really hope the wiring harness is simple and that the ridgeline version has enough grunt. C'mon Advance Adapters! Work your magic!

      Cheers,
      prat
      • 7 Years Ago
      Hmmm...
      The Autoblog author refers to diesels as "oil burners", but then expresses the hope that Honda will further the acceptance of them in the US. Perhaps Autoblog would do diesel technology a favor by sticking to the facts and foregoing negative and false stereotypes. It is highly unlikely that any diesel meeting the strict new emissions standards would be an "oil burner".

      • 7 Years Ago
      Diesel is already $.50 more a gallon. Wait until there are a lot of diesel passenger cars. $ per gallon is going to shoot through the roof!
      • 7 Years Ago
      That is great news.The European Accord with the 2,2 cc common rail diesel engine is a sweet car and the engine delivers over 250 ft/lb of torque. I am a BMW guy but I have the biggest respect and admiration for Honda for always staying ahead of the pack in technology and providing their customers great driving cars. Way to go.
      Greg A.
      • 7 Years Ago
      "...capable of meeting California's strict Tier II / Bin 5 standards..."

      Won't Tier II / Bin 5 go into effect nationwide on Jan. 1, 2008?

      As for the Accord Hybrid's relatively low fuel economy: Don't forget that it's quicker than the Accord V6 (if I'm not mistaken), so it must've been designed for acceleration rather than economy.
        • 7 Years Ago
        @Greg A.
        Well - The Accord Hybrid has a V6, so no surprise there...
      • 7 Years Ago
      If that's true, that sounds great. That hybrid accord wasn't all that good and as of now, U.S. buyers don't have that many diesels to choose from, but for this to have an effect in whether or not it would go on my short list is it must meet the California's strict Tier II / Bin 5 standards which my state Massachusetts adopted.

      Hopefully more diesels (Cars, Wagons and SUV) will come out for U.S. buyers, there's two bio-diesel stations in Mass and I would like to use them.

      See Yeah!
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