• May 2nd 2007 at 7:56PM
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Ford has not been having much luck with the 6.4-liter diesel engines for its Super Duty trucks of late. In the latest twist of a saga that began in January, Navistar, the company that makes those engines, had added additional charges to its $2 billion counter-suit against Ford.

Navistar has been the exclusive maker of Ford's Super Duty diesel truck engines since 1979. In January of this year, Ford sued Navistar over the price of the engine and excessive warranty claims. In February, Navistar halted shipments of the just launched 6.4-liter engines, saying Ford had stopped paying for them. Ford got a court order to compel Navistar to ship the engines (which Ford paid for) -- then Ford had to recall more than 8,000 trucks because customers were reporting tailpipe fires. Navistar has now filed a counterclaim that seeks more than $2 billion in damages, and alleges that Ford is planning to develop its own diesel engines prior to 2012. There is no indication as to which party, Ford or Navistar, has a better case. For now, though, while the engine issues can't be good for Navistar, it is far more damaging for Ford to have to deal with these kinds of problems with its newly-launched bread-and-butter vehicle.

[Source: Automotive News]

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      • 8 Years Ago
      In my book the Duramax diesel by GM/Isuzu is much better. Awesome motor and quiet, nice and quiet.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Navistar is just trying to avoid paying Ford the money it owes by drawing out the legal process. I mean, suing for -future- profit loss? That's a stretch and a half.
      • 8 Years Ago
      #12 Period.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Ford should have severed this relationship years ago. This is yet another page in the Ford Folly Diary.....a mistake that will take years to correct. I am all about the way forward plan, but Ford has serious issues with the majority of products they make.

      Also, Navistar should be ashamed of themselves for trying to beat around the bush on this. Their engine sucks....plain and simple. They redesigned it, and it still has issues. Someone has to be held accountable. Sharing warranty costs between the two companies seems like a very reasonable offer to me.

      What Navistar doesn't seem to realize is that service doesn't end after the sale. If you build a product, you have to stand behind it.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Please disregard # 39 as it was sent as an error.
      • 8 Years Ago
      FORD stop relying on the lack of ingenuity that other companies have! Build your own diesel engines and don't outsource it just to save a few pennies!

      It's not the engineers that are at fault for the history of imperfect Ford vehicles it is the accounting department! To solve future problems Ford should FIRE the accounting department. Then more vehicles like the 2004 Ford GT, 1985 Ford Taurus, and 1991 Ford Explorer can be created and thus Fend off import brand (A.K.A. Knock-offs)!

      Those three vehicles at their time can not be beat by any other manufacture in the world. As such the 2008 Super Duty trucks should be treated as those vehicles were! Since the F-series/Super Duty series is what keeps Ford at the 11th Hour of their demise! Otherwise Ford would have been gone some 40 years ago!
      • 8 Years Ago
      Hey Navistar, when you find yourself in a hole, STOP DIGGING!
      • 8 Years Ago
      michael, they got rid of the 7.3 that was -awesome- because of stupid torque wars with dodge and GM.

      By the way, the problems with the 6.0 were partly manufacturing issues and the problems with the 6.4 are, also. So even if ford designs screwed up the 6.0, it's still mostly navistar's crappy manufacturing that is to blame.

      Also, I fully support Ford designing its own engines, as long as they use the opportunity to create a super-modern euro-style diesel with big american truck size.
      • 8 Years Ago
      It's all Toyota's fault. Toyota is planning on destroying the American auto industry so they can own the market. Where is Predent bush when we need him? Liberal congress will give the market to Toyota. GM RULES! Saab is faster than luxus!
      • 8 Years Ago
      The thing I dont get with the 6.4 is how did tailpipe fires NOT show up during their 10 million miles of testing? If owners had tailpipe fires on their truck with less than 10 000 miles, I have to wonder how this issue did not turn up when testing.
      • 8 Years Ago
      With all the news I'm hearing about Ford, I'd never buy one of their diesels. I have one at work that's got lots of problems.

      I've also had bad experiances with Cummings diesels. Sensors going bad left and right. Dramatic power loss, etc.

      I've never hears anything bad about Duramax, though.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Ahh..."Built Ford Tough" turns out to not be built by Ford at all! Go fig.
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