• Apr 18th 2007 at 1:29PM
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There was a time when if you wanted to quickly explain that something was the ultimate, all you had to do was say "It's the Cadillac of. . ." People haven't used Cadillac in that sense for a while, but with the recent confirmation of an S-Class rival in the works and now the new CTS-V being aimed at the M5, you can't accuse Caddy of not trying to reclaim its former glory.

The CTS-V is not due until the fall of 2008, with rumors suggesting around 25% more horsepower than the current model. Bob Lutz will only say the power is "unexpectedly high", but no one is saying yet from which engine those 500 or so horses will spring. The current CTS-V, which retails at $53,470 and runs the Corvette's 400-hp V8, is pitched at Audi's S4 and RS4. With an $82,000 competitor in its sights, the CTS-V will probably be expected to bring 25% more of everything. Car and Driver has the shots and video, Bob Lutz has the quote, both of which are a clear warning to certain Bavarians that unless their 5-Series rocketsled gets a lot better, the "flat-out incredible" CTS-V will "suck the doors off" its foe, end quote.

[Source: Car and Driver]

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      • 8 Years Ago

      The CTS-V has already proven itself as a c more than competent handling sport luxery car. I don't see how this would be compromised in the new model...
      • 8 Years Ago
      I am glad that Cadillac is coming back up -- it it a case study in brand strength overcoming years of idiot management decisions.
      The guys who make direct comparisons to BMW models are lacking some understanding of both brands. Maybe I could put it this way-- the statement the owners want the cars to make:

      "EFFF YOU! I have a Cadillac, get out of the way!" (same statement made in the 50s and 60s, best selling years of the brand--lol)

      "EFFF YOU! I am smarter and more sophisticated than you, get out of the way!"

      GM made the almost fatal error of chasing BMW with the Cadillac brand, starting with the Cimarron, and, I hope, ending with Lutz. The brand dominance will never return, but the mastery of the available market segments is starting to happen, I hope.
      In LA/BevHills, where I live, so many of the people who can afford these cars are from Iran or Asian countries, and will stick with the European brands they always liked. American born generations may slowly change that.
      • 8 Years Ago
      there is a video on the car and driver website of the 09 ctsv at the 'ring. the sound is pretty good, i dont hear any supercharger whine which leads me to believe the ls7 has found another home. GM has a great world class performance engine and they need to put it in everything they can.

      ls7 > bmw v10
      • 8 Years Ago
      Best Motoring did a track comparo between the M3, RS4 , STS-V and other cars and the STS-V was like a snail even though the caddy had the most power 469hp and most torque 439lb-ft among the competing cars.

      Hold on a minute. Why would you compare the bloated STS-V to any of those cars. Why did they avoid the CTS-V and go pick on it's less athletic bretheren?

      The CTS is already bigger all the cars that you named, and you go pick on the even bigger STS-V. I think we all know what the outcome would be, even without a comparo test. This was idiotic, and a complete waste of fuel.
      • 8 Years Ago
      People are so brand bias it hurts. Why can't Cadillac build a car that is comparable to BMW's M5? I'm apparently not the only one in this place that owns an E60 M5 and while it's a good car, it's by no means as good as so many people make it out to be. It's real fun but the transmission just ruins it for me a lot of the time. The M5 doesn't know if it wants to be a sports car or a family sedan. It should be a better blend of both. The new CTS is a good looking car and the best looking Cadillac to come out in a long time. I'm sure with the LS7 engine under the hood, things are going to get crazy. I wish my M5's V10 had the torque of the LS7! Counting out anything before you test it is just about the dumbest thing ever.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Proud Japanese: you are as dumb as the comparo.

      CTS-V vs STS-V

      CTS-V is a M3/M5 competitor, 'Ring tuned, corvette engine, full racing credentials.
      STS-V is a sport-luxury... or I should say a luxury with a dash of sport.

      Why would you talk about a STS-V comparo when nobody but you has mentioned the STS?

      You truly are the most stoooooooopid person on this board.
      • 8 Years Ago
      This is the first time i have been mildly impressed with a caddy, maybe it will lose it's imgage of bein a thugs hood car..

      • 8 Years Ago
      I just hope they make it handle well. The domestics have always been good at stuffing high horsepower motors into cars, but handling has often been left sub-par.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Lexus, take notes. Fake body scoops, automatic transmissions, and electronic nanny's don't cut it here.

      Bring a big gun, but have the finnesse to go with it.

      GO CADDY!
      • 8 Years Ago
      i'd place the CTS-V vs. the M3 and RS4 simply because of the car's size - the CTS lines up with the 3series and A4. an STS is more comparable to a 5series and A6, respectively. i don't get why it's so hard to place these cars - i just look at pricing and vehicle size. here, we have a midsize, luxury, ultra sport sedan. fits the bill, IMO =)
      • 8 Years Ago
      CTS is a whole different class of car than the m5. competing against the m3 would make sense, but the m5? nah. in this class, we're talking about the m5, e55, rs6. no way CTS is even a competitor among this group.
      Yeah I know what you mean. Just like no way the Z06 is a competitor to any of the European marques that it has mauled along the way. Not trying to change anyone's mind, just intend to embarrass the heck out of them all.
      • 8 Years Ago
      If the CTS-V is going to have 500 horsepower, than how many will the STS-V and XLR-V have if they continue prodution of both of them.
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