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Nissan determined that Miami would serve as the East Coast launching ground for the next addition to its SE-R legacy. Why Miami? We don't know either, but ignoring the hard bodies, mojitos and other stereotypes of this great proboscis into the Atlantic, the question to be answered is this: does the new Sentra SE-R live up to its predecessors or is it simply an econobox with a red seatbelt? We were invited to the Homestead Speedway to find out.

This hotted up Sentra enters the market in the middle of a sport compact renaissance.
Spearheaded by the Civic Si, elaborated on by the MK5 GTI and now, by many accounts, dominated by the Mazdaspeed3, the SE-R has its work cut out for it. Whether or not its combatants can be categorized as traditional "sport compacts" is debate for another day, but with performance figures within tenths of a second of each other, the competition in this particular segment has already been set to boil.To begin with, the Sentra SE-R comes in two flavors: standard and Spec V. The former comes equipped with a 2.5-liter QR25DE producing 177 HP at 6,000 RPM and 172 lb.-ft. of torque at 2,800 RPM. Power is sent down to the front wheels via Nissan's Xtronic CVT, complete with a set of steering wheel-mounted paddle shifters, allowing would-be racers to channel their
inner Alonso. Nissan likes to tout the fact that the nearest competitor in the segment with a paddle-shift transmission is the GTI, at a $4k premium. However, comparing VW/Audi's delectable DSG to a CVT with artificial ratios is a like saying that Rosie O'Donnell is as hot as Pamela Anderson, just because they share the same cup size.Mechanical faux pas aside, Nissan understands that two groups exist within its target demographic, and the standard SE-R was produced to appeal to those looking for an increase in performance without sacrificing the smooth ride to which their delicate bottoms have grown accustomed. As such, the suspension on the base SE-R is made up of slightly stiffer springs that keep the stock ride height, however, variable-flow dampers, a technology pilfered from Infiniti, is employed to soak up the bumps in every day driving and firm up when the going gets twisty.
Our time behind the wheel of both vehicles was minimal, as a lack of small helmets limited our hot laps, but the overall impression of the standard SE-R was favorable, though not
awe-inspiring. Depressing the Manual button to the left of the shift knob engages the paddle shifters, although we would prefer a quick tap on either paddle to employ the system automatically. "Downshifting" was quick and intuitive, proving useful on a couple of the tighter bends, while up shifting with the paddles was useless as the CVT would quickly swap up as soon as it reached the engine's 6,200 RPM redline. Quite the killjoy, that CVT.As for handling, the standard SE-R showed its commuter roots when taken at anything beyond 8/10ths, with enough lean to be noticeable, and at times, disconcerting. It certainly "felt" sporty, but this particular version wouldn't be our first choice when heading out for a track day or a late night assault on our local mountain road. However, Nissan knows that some are willing to sacrifice everyday ease for higher levels of performance... enter the Spec V.

Sporting a high output version of the same motor, the Spec V's mill gets a bump in compression from 9.6:1 to 10.5:1 and brings power levels up accordingly. 200 HP is available at 6,600 RPM, max torque (180 lb.-ft. of the stuff) comes in at 5,200 RPM and redline climbs to 7k. The intake manifold has been modified, along with the connecting rods, piston crown, valve springs, intake and exhaust cams. The result is a sprint to 60 in 6.7 seconds and a quarter mile time likely on the low side of 15 seconds.
All those changes are instantly noticeable when the road gets straight and you're in second gear. Where the standard SE-R felt like it needed a bit more provocation to get going, the Spec V brings the horizon to you quicker and with less effort. There's a considerable amount of twist available no matter where you are in the rev range, but we'll have to wait until we get the Spec V on the road to see how functional it is in real-world driving.That 200 HP finds the ground through a perfectly placed, yet difficult to stir, six-speed manual and, when
equipped with the 225/45WR17 Continental SportContact2 summer rubber, a limited-slip differential. While the brakes on both cars have been upgraded from the standard models, the Spec V gets 12.6-inch front discs, (up from 11.7-inch on the base model) with the SE-R logo emblazoned into the caliper, and 11.5-inch rotors in the rear. Naturally, ABS is standard on both vehicles.On the stiff side of things, opting up for the Spec V gives you springs that drop the vehicle 10mm, while the variable-flow dampers feature an internal rebound spring (originally employed on the R34 Skyline GT-R) that limits body roll when braking and cornering. The front stabilizer bar swells to 25mm and a V-brace, mounted in the trunk, keeps sideways flex to a minimum.
All this additional engineering thrown at Nissan's new "C" platform makes for an entertaining track toy. The addition of the LSD allows prodigious use of the throttle earlier, with only a hint of understeer. Coming down the front straight of Homestead at over 100 MPH was be the best testing ground for the upgraded stoppers and they proved up to the task. A gentle bend to the left, followed by some judicious application of the middle pedal, became a bit of a hair-raising experience as the back end unloaded, but any hint of oversteer was quickly quelled as the rear obediently followed the front.As impressed as we were with the handling dynamics and the power delivery, the one killer app Nissan has going for it with the SE-R is its price point. The base model with CVT comes in at $19,400,
while the Spec V variant gets an additional $500 tacked onto the sticker. Opting for the top-of-the-line model (the one to get) and equipping it with the LSD, audio package (Rockford Fosgate 6-disc changer, MP3/WMA playback) and the sunroof, the price comes in at $22,415. In the end, it's a series of compromises; if you want to stay in the naturally aspirated realm, you get more torque from the Spec V than the Si, but at a 300-pound premium; go the turbocharged route with the GTI and MS3 and you're quickly banging on the $25k ceiling. And we haven't even gotten into the subjective world of styling.We left the track wanting more, which is certainly a good sign, but we'll have to reserve final judgment until we get one in the Autoblog Garage. Until then, know that another capable compact is pulling at your purse strings and certainly deserves a test drive.

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
DPC car videos @ Mar 30th 2007 3:44PM
Its funny how cars that are considered economy cars are in the 20k+ range with some in the mid to high 20K range. It is hard to think a kid in high school or in college can afford small fun cars anymore. I guess with leasing and high residual there is still a chance of driving these cars.
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Clinton @ Mar 30th 2007 4:07PM
They are considered economy cars because of the cars they are based on, not the price. Some people would rather spend between $20-25K on something like this than something larger in the same price range. When I was autocrossing my SVT Focus, more then half of the people with these small fun cars were in their mid twenties to mid thirties.
Matt @ Mar 30th 2007 4:18PM
The 3-4 shift in this car is so long, I think I dislocated my shoulder while trying to drive it.
VMPhil @ Mar 30th 2007 4:18PM
This is where the Term EconoSport comes to into play. THe Se-R, the SI, Mazda Speed Protoge\3, GTI are all just out of reach for your average high school hot rodder. These cars are BASED on economy cars but are sold as slighly seperate entities because of performance enhancing options and higher price tags, Marketed at 20 somethings. Evolution and Sti Nomenclatures also could also fall into this catagory but these 2 put a bigger emphasis on performance and exlusivity which warrant the much higher price tag, I would Classify these 2 as sports cars, although some people wouldnt agree with that.
-Phil
VMPhil @ Mar 30th 2007 4:20PM
@ post #2 i was typing as you posted your comment, i just took too long. so pardon me for saying the same thing you did.
-Phil
felipe @ Mar 30th 2007 4:29PM
don't care if it does 0-100 in 3 seconds
don't care if its only $5 grand,
don't care what angle the picture is,
this is by far the ugliest sentra ever.
almost as 'load' looking as the prius.
Michael Karesh @ Mar 30th 2007 4:45PM
Have these already reached dealers?
My drive in the regular Sentra left me wondering how they'd ever make a driver's car out of it. I'm not a fan of the quasi-minivan driving position, for one thing.
The previous generation Spec V had more torque steer than I've experienced in any other car. Torque steer is not mentioned in the preview. Have they avoided it through clever engineering this time around?
I'll get pricing for the SE-R and Spec V into my price comparison site's database this weekend.
Page for the Sentra:
http://www.truedelta.com/models/Sentra.php
Don @ Mar 30th 2007 5:47PM
A) CVT's suck.
B) That console-mounted shifter sucks.
C) The big, 2.5-litre 4-cylinder, however, rocks.
Still no Mazda3 beater, though.
Aetius @ Mar 30th 2007 5:54PM
A CVT sports-car? LOL.
bobdobbs @ Mar 30th 2007 6:48PM
Nissan ought to simply dust off the tooling for the '90-'93 Sentra SE-R. Even now, it's a better car than this one.
Tsunami Racer @ Mar 30th 2007 7:14PM
I can't get over how tall these new Sentras are. They make the Prius look sleek and low in comparison.
MikeW @ Mar 30th 2007 9:31PM
At least nissan kind-of tries. The city light is a start.
Is 0.7g the full sweep of the lateral accelerometer?
Howard Kerr @ Mar 31st 2007 2:18AM
In the latest issue of C&D, the SE-R gets panned. Out of 5 econosports-type cars, it comes in 5th...if I remember right. I didn't look to see which version they tested, but it's obvious to the casual observer that once again Nissan has taken a wild and wooly "hot rod" of a car and tamed the life out of it? Remember what a great drive the early Z cars were...what crap the ZXs were?
Rick Lyon @ Mar 31st 2007 2:31PM
Miami and Homestead are two completely different cities. And Homestead does not have hardbodies and much fewer mojitos in comparison.
What happened to the $15k car? Seems everything is $20k to mid $20k and I can't fathom that many people have jobs to afford a $500-$750 car payment. I also can't understand why that many people may be leasing as you really lose out in 2 years.
Bryan @ Mar 31st 2007 4:01PM
Such a turd. Reminds me of the plasticky Ion. This thing looks like a toy model a 5 year old could put together.
Damon Lavrinc @ Mar 31st 2007 6:25PM
Mr. Karesh: Our time BTW was limited, but from what I experienced, torque steer was less of an issue in this model than the previous gen. When we get one in the AB Garage, I'll have more details.
MikeW - Yup.
Rick Lyon - We were staying amidst the hardbodies and mojitos in Miami, then were trucked out 45+ minutes to Homestead for the track day.
Araemo @ Apr 2nd 2007 10:51AM
Michael Karesh: You comment about the B15's Torque steer, but I really wonder what year you drove? I own a 2005 Sentra SE-R Spec-V, and the torque steer is not bad(Not nonexistant, but not bad) in my opinion. What I've read suggests that Nissan DID learn to minimize it through creative engineering between the 2003 and 2005 models. (As in, I've heard lots of people who have driven both pre-2005 and post-2005 Spec-V's say that the torque steer is MUCH improved from 2005-on.)
king327200 @ Apr 24th 2007 4:10PM
I purchased the Spec V this past weekend and I have to say it's an awesome car to drive for the money. Better then the last iterations of the SER. I've had two 92 models and they were great. But this one brings more to the table. Little to no torque steer and performs about as well as an Si both around corners and in strait always. The torque allows for a better grunt feeling lower in the RPM then on the Si too. It has also grown on me astatically... it looks much better then in the pictures. The only thing I might complain about is Nissans unwillingness to re-instate the independent rear suspension the earlier models had. I'm impressed with what the can do with the multi link but any handling issues would immediately have gone away with an independent rear.