• Mar 21, 2007
The independant review set up to study what went wrong in a controversial Consumer Reports test that found 10 out of 12 rear-facing child safety seats to be unsafe has concluded that a misunderstanding between the magazine and the lab caused the error.

The misunderstanding apparently revolves around how fast the crash was supposed to be versus how fast struck car would move after the impact. Since an impacted car moves at half the speed of the object it was struck by, the independant lab misunderstood its instructions by performing crash tests in which the struck vehicle was set to move at 38 mph by an object going twice that speed. Obviously, the instructions for the test meant for the crash to be conducted at 38 mph, a much more reasonable speed, resulting in the struck vehicle moving at 19 mph.

In order to avoid such misunderstandings in the future, president of CR's parent company Consumers Union, Jim Guest, will sign off on "any report that calls a product Not Acceptable or raises questions about an entire group of products." In addition, the independant review suggested that CR be more open when it devises new tests and consult outside experts.

As for the car seats that were wrongly judged to be unsafe, CR plans to retest them again, though this time with a frontal crash test. A new side-impact test is still being developed according to the report by the Detroit Free Press.

[Source: Detroit Free Press]


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      • 7 Years Ago
      I agree with poster #1, which is why I bought a Graco SnugRide for my newborn. After all, it was the only seat to hold up at 76 mph crash, so I feel a little safer driving on the Garden State Parkway where people think its a race to the death on the weekends. BTW, Graco is an American brand owned by Newell Rubbermaid.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Frank...let me give you some advice. It's important to read and research something before you complain about it.

      Unlike the fanboyz who complain about CR but have never picked it up, I actually READ something before making a comment.

      And, actually Frank...Karesh wants me to CONTRIBUTE to his site, to help him make an argument that he is better (with sample sizes of 30-some odd models) than CR.

      So, no, I am NOT doing what he wants.

      But you knew that already, right?
      • 7 Years Ago
      Despite this error, I would consult through Consumer reports for help to make my dissection's on major purchases... Its not like someone intentionally went out to slam child car seats... And all the products tested still had to be tested all in the same manner. So the two car seats that got a acceptable rating of some sort, probably would get a outstanding rating with the tests run correctly.

      Of course... I would have to be a regular reader of consumer reports to catch that... So that's why I never let consumer reports run all my purchasing dissections..
      • 7 Years Ago
      16. Shocking that ANOTHER post about CR brings out Troll #1 Michael Karesh with his OPINION on CR's testing methods. Karesh, you are a clown. I've read your CR forum comments, your "think pieces" on your site....

      LMAO! You trash Dr. Karesh but then you say you read all his editorials and comments on his site! Looks like you are doing exactly what he wants you to do. Maybe that's why he has a PhD and you don't...
      • 7 Years Ago
      I agree with the first post. I can't imagine any fit parent settling for a second-rate car seat for his or her child. I have a Graco SnugRide for my little girl too. Second-best isn't good enough when it comes to keeping her safe.
      Richie638
      • 7 Years Ago
      I hope the Japanese publish a Consumer Reports type magazine. I'm sure it will be a 'Best Buy' when compared to the American Consumer Reports.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Jake,

      Still LMAO. Because what you say has no credibility and makes no sense. You bitch and moan about Karesh being a troll, but you read all his posts and his website. And now you want me to believe that you are not doing what he wants? Gee, next you are going to tell me you are best "buds" with him. Sorry Jake, but my reading comprehension is just fine.
      • 7 Years Ago
      "I hope the Japanese publish a Consumer Reports type magazine. I'm sure it will be a 'Best Buy' when compared to the American Consumer Reports."

      I pray they do!

      "Well, this is what people get for actually trusting CR..

      also known as CRap. Nothing but a politically charged organization"

      I trusted them on a $600.00 washing machine.
      Their top rated model six years ago.
      During the six years I owned it I paid $400.00 in repairs after the repairs that were done under warranty. When the tub cracked I finally pulled the plug. The tub was still under warranty but the labor wasn`t.

      As for testing cars. When you read the reviews the predisposition written right in the review. This disposition is there before the reviewers even get in the car to test them.
      We predict Toyota will be above average. BS!
      • 7 Years Ago
      A few months back, they goofed on calculating the true cost of hybrid cars -- they double-counted depreciation.

      Now they goofed again.

      These are supposed to be the "smart" guys -- the guys we trust and turn to for accuracy.

      You'd think they would have someone double-check the articles before they print a million magazines... I spotted the depreciation error 5 minutes after I started reading the article. When you see an 83% failure rate in car seats -- maybe -- just maybe -- you double-check your tests.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Well, this is what people get for actually trusting CR..

      also known as CRap. Nothing but a politically charged organization.
      • 7 Years Ago
      Soooo..the seat you really want is the one that passed this test, even though it was too fast.
      • 7 Years Ago
      What kind of lab is this?!?!?!??!
      There are labs that CLUELESS?!?
      Who runs these labs???1 Pack mules?!?!
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