Honda Civic Type R may come to America in 2010
During a recent press drive of the Euro-market Civic Type R, Winding Road's European editor Matt Davis appears to have gotten unofficial confirmation that Honda will be offering a Type R variant of the U.S. model Civic in 2010. Speaking with an unnamed assistant chief engineer, Davis learned that the car we'll get is likely based on the Japanese Domestic Market Civic Type R, which is a four-door sedan rather than the Euro market's three-door hatchback. Since Honda already sells the four-door Civic in the States and not the Euro hatchback, this only makes sense. Davis' source also revealed the car would receive a horsepower boost and limited-slip differential. We imagine any car wearing the Type R badge would also lose some weight, as well.
While we do appreciate Honda offering the Civic Si here in the U.S., especially the four-door version, it's high-revving 2.0L enginer producing 197 hp is easily outmatched by many of its competitors that have crested the 200 hp mark and then some. The closest thing Honda has right now to what we'll eventually get in the U.S. is this prototype four-door Type R Civic (shown above) based on the JDM model. It was used as the official pace car for the 2006 F1 Japan Grand Prix and is the prototype for the four-door Civic Type R that will be on sale in Japan this year.
[Source: Winding Road]
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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 4)
geovit23 12:15AM (1/27/2009)
Hey Guys, the four door honda civic tail light is ugly thats why i'm eyeing the mazda speed 3. better tail and head lights and its a zoom zoom.
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jgc711 3:36AM (4/02/2009)
honda should just manufacture a civic that is based on the s2000 platform...that way it will be a rwd and use the same engine as the s2 and do about 450 horses plus...
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ironchefkim 4:31PM (4/17/2009)
The author of the article has made an error in the title. It should have originally read "Honda Civic Type-R may or MAY NOT come to the America in 2010". Honda corporation currently has no plans whatsoever to bring the Civic Type-R variants to the United States at this time nor in any foreseeable future. You have a better chance of winning the state lottery jackpot than seeing one of these beauties here in the country. I would love to see these babies sold here but just because we want it doesn't mean it will happen. Sorry folks, but that's just the way it is.
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zh589 11:39AM (5/20/2009)
the fact that the Type R civic is around 2700lbs makes up for the fact that it only has 225hp.
so it is much lighter than the competition, has the best interior (recaros all around and carbon fiber) brembo brake system, seam welded chassis. if honda could sell this car for 24-25k people would buy it.
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kienkontrami29 9:16PM (8/06/2009)
that will never happen..25k???for a type R...rather just do some mods and buy the JDM front clip and rear conversion and you'll have yourself a type r.
kienkontrami29 9:21PM (8/06/2009)
I have an 09 si in Redline Orange with the jdm front and all..making better power than the type r. And my car weighs in almost the same at 2800lbs.
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damanteo 6:00PM (2/27/2007)
then it's just the csx type-s up north?
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Drew3k 5:22PM (2/27/2007)
It looks good! The headlights look like the ones from the ion red line, but they look better on this car. I don't see what the big difference is between the Si and the Type-R. 8hp? Who cares?
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twfaircloth 11:48AM (4/11/2009)
i have the 09 si and it has 200hp and the new type R is suppose to have 219hp almost 220hp. It really doesnt seem to be much but in the dealerships world the have to make a/an afforable sports car that can beat Mazdaspeed3 and WRX. The speed3 has 200hp and is turbocharged and the WRX well theres not any car that i know of that can beat it. What Honda needs to do is try making it better than the R32 Volkswagen which has 232hp turbo. 20hp means 0-60 in about .426 sec. faster. Ive did some illegal mods to my car and it pushes 360hp because I have a T4 and some other good things. Before when it was stock I got my car to 137mph and with the mods I hit 190mph. 20hp means 14 more mph thats it. Your right Who cares to pay $1,000's more when you could just add a cold air intake for $800 and add 20hp????
sprayed150 10:53AM (4/14/2009)
how are you that stupid.
Cameron 5:24PM (2/27/2007)
The new Si sedan and coupe are plenty sporty, I'll take a new CRX over a US-bound Type R. Plus, a Type R Civic sedan would approach WRX TR prices, and even as Honda fan, I'd still take the turbo AWD WRX over a Type R Civic.
Bring back the CRX!
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djSyndrome 5:26PM (2/27/2007)
If it's MY 2010, that would be the last year of the current generation Civic - there's no way Honda would spend all of that money to bring the T-R over for only one year. If it's CY 2010, that fall would be the first year of the 9th generation Civic, and the 'new' Type-R wouldn't even be out in Japan yet, since Type-R's are normally about a year to 18 months behind.
Based on the date alone, I'd say this is suspect, at best.
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David 5:31PM (2/27/2007)
Mehhh whatever... Won't budge my love affair with my current Mazdaspeed3... (which sticks your neck to the seat @ 2500rpm and not 6000 !).
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Hondafan 5:42PM (2/27/2007)
I scartch my head in bewilderment as to why Honda is so gun shy about bringing to the US market a really kick ass sports car. My only guess is that they don't want to screw with their Green image by having the best overal MPG of any car manufacturer.
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3rdgear=heaven 5:47PM (2/27/2007)
David, I'll second that emotion. I'm in love. Can't wait to see the Type R in my rearview.
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Howard Kerr 5:48PM (2/27/2007)
"...which sticks your neck to the seat..."
Me? I'd want the acceleration of a car to stick my butt to the seat. Must be kind of hard driving your way.
With several years to produce a working prototype, I don't understand why Honda can't do like what it does in Europe...take a two door (in this case NOT a hatchback) strip it down a bit, inject it with a dew more horses, paint it a special color and charge a bit extra for the "privilege to buy it.
I am curious to know how popular the 4 door Si is compared to the 2 door and if the numbers are being manipulated. That is, are dealers "flooded" with 4 doors while 2 doors are scarce...or vice versa?
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Hondacura 6:08PM (2/27/2007)
i'll believe this when Temple of Vtec post the info.
Also I agree wit djsyndrome. Unless 2010 is the last model year of the current Civic which is possible. I can see Honda offering it for the last year of this model. Typical of Honda.
A shame they don't give it to us now.
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Jeremy 6:16PM (2/27/2007)
Why is everyone getting worked up about a 200 hp Civic??? I'm no Dodge fan, nor am I a big fan of the Caliber, but the SRT-4 will pump out 300 hp from about the same size engine with a standard limited slip. What's so great about a 200 hp Civic? Even the Solstice GXP/Sky Redline do 260 hp and equal torque. Why is it that imports ALWAYS have significantly less torque than they do hp? But it's ok, brag about the Honda because it's a Honda instead of looking at the specs.
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R 7:38PM (9/16/2007)
Hmm, who's not looking at the specs? You're comparing a 2.4L turbocharged engine to a naturally aspirated 2L. Of course the 2.4 FI is going to blow the 2 NA out of the water in terms of power.
The caliber is also a lot heavier than the neon it replaced. It's expected to be 3200 pounds, while the Type-R will be 2800. And the caliber has a drag coefficient of .375, which is pretty damn high. Sorry, but to me, the Neon SRT-4 was much better overall. The caliber looks like a sporty minivan.
Just for clarification, the JDM Type-R gets 225 horses, not 200.
danielhyon 5:35AM (7/25/2009)
in all honesty i do not know why you guys are upset about the the horsepower being the x-factor here. The Civic is not only about "Power." It's also about performance and handling. yeah i'm sure the srt is great on the straight but can it handle on a track with lots of twists and turns? does chevy make handling cars or do they just stick a engine with a turbo just to go faster and not work on the suspensions, rollbars, etc? You're major downfall in pointing out what an SRT can do is that it's just fast. It has no cornering abilities, OR as good as a type-r. ALSO bigger brake pads/rotors doesn't mean anything either. Overall i think there are upsides and downsides to the new Honda Type-R that is coming out to the U.S. I'm glad that we are finally getting a Civic Type-R that is coming out to this country. And i would take the 4 door over the 2 door models simply because "I do not want to put my seats forward for idiots i have to take home getting in my way and taking seconds of my time!" I do not own a car but i do know alot about them ^ ^ dont take this to a negative point of view.