The barrage continues: GTR caught testing at Infineon/Sears Point
Have we overdone the GT-R coverage yet? We didn't think so, either. This is a pretty hotly anticipated player in the sports/GT segment and we can't get enough of it. After discovering a new GT-R on California's freeways recently, the spy photogs decided to give chase and ended up driving all the way to Sonoma. The Nissan team was apparently headed to Infineon Raceway at Sear's Point to dial in the new super Skyline for final production tire and wheel specs. The Edmund's team reports that the turbo all-wheel-drive Nissan was unofficially clocked as running within tenths of a second of the 997 Turbo Porsche the group had brought along for comparison. Turbo performance at Carrera prices? Sounds good to us. Plenty of pics and even some video available by following the read link.[Source: Edmund's Straightline]
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CoffeeJones 2:39PM (2/15/2007)
This just in:
GTR caught in love tryst with 997. The rumor mills are abuzz! Could this mean big things for Porsche?!
Watch this space!
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Jeff 2:54PM (2/15/2007)
I can't wait to own this car.
http://www.nagtroc.com/forums/index.php?
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D Man 3:01PM (2/15/2007)
Japanese durability, competitive pricing and 997 Turbo Porshe performance, I am in love!
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naggs 3:13PM (2/15/2007)
it might be as fast as a shelby 500 mustang, or maybe as fast as a base z51 corvette.
looks like the zo6 remains faster than any car to ever come out of japan
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Chris 3:51PM (2/15/2007)
Oh my ugliness... I think I will take the 997 Turbo...
Vette shmett, the ZO6 has leaf springs, please.... Yeah yeah, it won Le Mans, etc. The vette that won these races is nothing like the car that you would like to buy from your local dealer.
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zetha 6:50PM (2/15/2007)
oh i forgot the stock z06 vett sucks with stock suspension, all those people who completely kick ass in autox with stock suspension vetts are just lucky. please be quiet, when you have no clue what you're talking about. As far as the gt-r goes, i don't believe it to be a vett competitor, but i would never buy a vett. i would by a gt-r however.
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Chris 4:38PM (2/15/2007)
Off topic, but does it matter if a Vette has leaf springs? I mean, first off, they're a totally different item than what people usually think of as leaf springs...they're composite, there's only one to a wheel, and they are transverse. And second, the car handles great and rides great, leading it to first place in C&D's comparo this month against a Lotus Exige S and 997 Turbo. It beat both around the track. Is your perception, innaccurate though it is, really more important than performance?
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Chris 4:40PM (2/15/2007)
Oh, and PS...the 997 Turbo has a MacPherson strut setup in the front, and a rear engine, both not the "ideal" way to go, but it performs well. And so people don't complain about it. But you complain about the Vette's advanced suspension setup?
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jg 4:45PM (2/15/2007)
'they're a totally different item than what people usually think of as leaf springs...they're composite, there's only one to a wheel, and they are transverse'
Is it one per wheel or one per axle?
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Chris 4:57PM (2/15/2007)
My bad, you're right. One per axle.
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D Man 6:19PM (2/15/2007)
On a track, like Nurburgring, I would pick a GT-R any day over a vette, on a straight away, you gotta go with the Vette, crappy interior and all!
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Aki 6:28PM (2/15/2007)
"looks like the zo6 remains faster than any car to ever come out of japan"
Why do these insecure, insipid posts crop up on every GT-R thread? Nordschleife track times:
# 7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3
# 7:43 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
Nissan always shoots to beat the latest 911 turbo. This GT-R is within tenths of a second to the 997 in its testing so far. So no, chances are good your frail nationalistic ego will be hurt when this car comes out.
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ThingyNess 10:45PM (2/15/2007)
The leaf springs are anchored in the middle, so while there is one per axle, they are fully independent. The fact that there's only one is irrelevant.
A spring is a spring, whether it's a round bar, flat bar, or round bar wound into a coil. They all work the same way. What's important is that the Corvette has independent rear suspension just like any other modern car, except its leaf springs allow it packaging and weight advantages that aren't possible with a coil spring.
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Glenn 4:42PM (2/16/2007)
"Nissan always shoots to beat the latest 911 turbo. This GT-R is within tenths of a second to the 997 in its testing so far. So no, chances are good your frail nationalistic ego will be hurt when this car comes out."
i dont really care what you think, i know your a delusional skyline fanboy who thinks that awd and extreme dogletness can overcome a 50 hp and 500 pound disadvantage.
all over when i find a skyline fanboy, they all have much greater expectations in every aspect than what the car can actually deliver.
3600 lbs 450 hp, sounds like good competition for mercs and the m3 bmw
3150 lbs
505 hp
better aero
lower center of gravity
lower sprung weight
stronger frame
on a track for the zo6 big enough to stretch its legs its faster than a ferrari f430. your car has a better interior and a much more extreme blow off valve that your doglets think is mad tizzul tight fo realz. but its not faster than the zo6.
dont you retards ever play any other car in gran turismo? if you were good at that game you would know that the corvette would destroy a r34 spec nur vr type jap super.
corvette >> gt-r
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naggs 5:18AM (2/16/2007)
"# 7:42 - Porsche 997 GT3
# 7:43 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
Nissan always shoots to beat the latest 911 turbo. This GT-R is within tenths of a second to the 997 in its testing so far. So no, chances are good your frail nationalistic ego will be hurt when this car comes out."
listen kid, i know your a huge skyline fanboy but you really don't know what your talking about. the gt3 is much faster than the 911 turbo. the gt3 is one of the most extreme street cars for sale today. its a street legal racecar. it is 1 sec faster around the nur than a zo6 for $40k more.
the gtr is just not going to be in that league of performance. its good up against the new v8 m3, and will almost be as fast as a gt500.
but your a fanboy and none of that matters, the gtr is the final arival of the LEDEGENDARY gtr. a car that doesnt even share a powertrain layout with any of the LEDEGENDARY racecars that have so little to do with the stock car.
then you retards will say that you tune it and it has 600hp and i would direct you to the katech and tt tuner corvettes which will be faster.
more power
better power delivery
lower weight
better suspension
lower center of gravity
better aero
sorry kid, its not even close
corvette >> gtr
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chris 6:14AM (2/16/2007)
Um, the GT500 is extremely slow. An R34 GT-R is faster, and I'm talking the totally stock one, not any special editions or anything like that. Oh, are you talking about 1/4 mile performance? Because this GT-R will easily be faster than the GT500 in a straight line, and on any surface and it'll do it every day of the week, not a lucky run on a drag strip. But these kind of cars are about track performance, where the GT500 is about as pathetic as a 500hp car can possibly be.
And GT3 much faster than the Turbo? At beast each car is a little faster than the other depending on the situation, if anything the Turbo is a little faster overall. Certainly the GT3 isn't even close to being much faster than the Turbo. The GT3 also isn't even close to being one of the most extreme street cars available today, I can think of a dozen cars, most of them cheaper, that are more extreme cars on sale today. Even in 911s it isn't #1, the GT3 RS and GT2 (997 version should be out before the end of the year) are both above it.
Oh, and the legendary GT-R race car is the R32 GT-R, that in Group A form (far, far closer to production cars than some GT1 Corvette) slaughtered pretty much every car on the planet causing Group A to be killed off. That was a twin-turbo 6-cyl AWD car in both race and street form, just like the 2008 GT-R will be. Of course it doesn't share an engine with the previous cars, because it's a new engine in a new car...
Oh and NISMO and Lotus are doing the GT-Rs suspension, I and most others would be stunned if the heavily criticised Z06 suspension (oh but you only read biased American magazines, so you wouldn't know about that) was even close to being as good. Where are you getting these magical GT-R specs for by the way? It could weigh 1100kg and have 700hp and 800Nm of torque for all you know.
You are really so stupid I'm honestly stunned.
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Araemo 8:58AM (2/16/2007)
"The leaf springs are anchored in the middle, so while there is one per axle, they are fully independent. The fact that there's only one is irrelevant.
A spring is a spring, whether it's a round bar, flat bar, or round bar wound into a coil. They all work the same way. What's important is that the Corvette has independent rear suspension just like any other modern car, except its leaf springs allow it packaging and weight advantages that aren't possible with a coil spring."
Actually, one of the advantages is that the spring is not 100% independent, it in fact behaves as its own roll bar. And the amount of anti-roll it provides is tunable by changing the midship anchor points. It's a very slick system, and I'll give Chevy all the props they deserve for it. And the Z06 IS an awesome car. But it's so completely out of my price range(and so is the GT-R) that I don't really care which one is better. I can't buy one, so I'm just going to sit here and drool.
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naggs 4:01PM (2/16/2007)
"Where are you getting these magical GT-R specs for by the way? It could weigh 1100kg and have 700hp and 800Nm of torque for all you know."
the numbers are what has been reported in all the respectable mags. i dont really care what Turbo Doglet Monthly has to say on the subject.
all the specs could turn out different, and for the gtr to be faster than a zo6, they would have to be. motor trend, automobile, car and driver and road & track would all have to be wrong.
i am simply making the best estimate of performance based on the best information available. the information available says
corvette >> gtr
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naggs 4:32PM (2/16/2007)
"Um, the GT500 is extremely slow. An R34 GT-R is faster"
lol, the r34 is about 320 hp. 500 is not just a little more than 320. the r34 isnt as fast as a c5 zo6 (first year, 385 hp)
extreme dogletness and a blowoff valve dont mean jack on the track son. things like power, torque, weight and center of gravity are what matter.
im sure the gtr will do well in hot import nights, but leave the racing to capable vehicles
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Zach 2:30PM (2/18/2007)
The advantage the GTR has over the porsche is as good or better performance for HALF the cost. The aftermarket will but quite big and the engine is very stout. Expect to see BPU(bolt on) GTR's in the 600HP range.
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