http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/ Autoblog Comments for http://www.autoblog.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.autoblog.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/It’s better looking, makes you smile when you open the door and grab a look at the interior and the twin cam’s performance is more accessible, too. It’s still not the all-rounder the torque-laden Golf is, but the gap is closer than ever and the Civic feels more exciting. And when it comes down to it, that's what hot hatches are all about. Once again, the Type R won't be everyone's cup of tea - it requires effort and could be a little more communicative - but those who do indulge will likely love (almost) every minute.
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Doesnt seem they dont like it... It seems it is better than ever?

Or was just another try to discredit Japanese car manufacturers, without actually reading the articles?]]>Jan 31st 2007 8:28PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
Discrediting Japanese manufacturers is at least more original than going after domestics. ;)]]>Jan 31st 2007 8:33PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
But yeah, the articles don't seem to be as negative as you're making them out to be. Seems to be the same kind of response the Renaultsport Clio 197 is getting, generally a better car than the previous 182 but it's a lot heavier which isn't exactly wanted in this kind of car.]]>Jan 31st 2007 8:38PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
I also read a while back that they might do a Type-RR version (a bit like they do with sports bikes). This might be the powered-up, stripped down version that the hardcore people want while the softer majority will go for the more comfortable R. Either way Honda is following the demand of customers. For example: How hard is it to find a Manual car these days? People tend to be buying boring safe cars.]]>Jan 31st 2007 8:41PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/Jan 31st 2007 8:57PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
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the formula is really simple, make a good small car, make a version with a big engine and call it an Si, and make a striped out version with track tuned suspension and call it the type r.

a type r version of the american si would almost certainly be better than the honda fit based type r in europe.

who would have thought that the good civic would be the one engineered in Ohio, gg jap fanbois

]]>Jan 31st 2007 9:18PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/If only they'd make a two-seat rear-drive lightweight fastback. That's how they could differentiate themselves from other sport compact makers.]]>Jan 31st 2007 9:41PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/Jan 31st 2007 9:43PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
http://www.autonet.hr/userdocsimages/Test/Honda%20Civic%202.2%20i-CTDi%20Sport/Honda%20Civic%202.2%20i-CTDi%20Sport%201280x1024.jpg]]>Jan 31st 2007 10:50PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/Jan 31st 2007 11:45PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/Jan 31st 2007 11:48PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
The US Civic coupe/sedan wasn't engineered in Ohio, either. They may be built there (along with a slew of other plants all over the world), but I promise you they were designed in Japan.]]>Feb 1st 2007 1:24AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
people will always mod their cars, but the word is out that bolting a fart can and a wing on a civic hatch doesnt change the fact that you still only have 100 whp]]>Feb 1st 2007 1:51AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
I don't know why you're doing all this 'ricer' bashing either, not even the most car-illiterate person would think that a spoiler or wing adds engine power to a car. They do exterior modifications that have no performance advantage because they think it looks good. Are you going to say that rednecks think that having the image of a bird on the hood of their car makes it go faster? Or do you only have ridiculously stupid criticisms towards people that drive Japanese cars?

How are minivans something that will fade away either? People buy them because they need them, not simply because they want them. It's almost like saying food is a niche product that will eventually fade away into obscurity.]]>Feb 1st 2007 3:16AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
As for making fun of ricers, I'm surprised that it's not obvious. These are people who put a lot of time and money into making their car *look* fast (to the uneducated) rather than *be* fast. It's generic poser behavior, but when applied to fairly lame asian cars, the pejorative "ricer" tag makes sense. It's not PC, I guess, but it's pretty inevitable.

And sure, there are plenty of idiots who think a giant chicken on their hood makes their car look fast (or at least who did so in the 1970's). I'm fine with calling them rednecks, but really that term covers a wide range of idiotic behavior.]]>Feb 1st 2007 3:58AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/Feb 1st 2007 6:38AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/The R-Type will prove this correct -- if it ain't right, true drivers will not buy it.]]>Feb 1st 2007 7:35AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVICTYPE-R/prototype/

THAT is the car that will live up to a Type-R "heritage", if any of them.]]>Feb 1st 2007 7:55AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/31/new-civic-type-r-not-living-up-to-its-moniker/
Its a shame the CTR and the Clio 197 had to go down this route, both were fantastic hot hatches in their previous generations. The Clio 182 Cup was supposed to be on par with even the most expensive supercars in terms of fun to drive factor (it tied for second in EVO magazine's COTY competition).]]>Feb 1st 2007 8:22AM