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Also, I think it would be great if BMW and VW also offered crate engines. Who wouldn't like to see the enigne from an BMW M6 stuffed in a BMW 3 series or Z4?]]>Jan 5th 2007 10:31AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/Jan 5th 2007 10:39AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
i'm serious.]]>Jan 5th 2007 10:48AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/Jan 5th 2007 10:58AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Could you please provide an example or two?

Thanks]]>Jan 5th 2007 11:01AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/Jan 5th 2007 11:22AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Posted at 10:39AM on Jan 5th 2007 by Ken J 0 stars
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It wouldn't even FIT in your Honda (Pun intended).

Dan is correct.
The Chevy Small Block is a prodigioud engine--of great legend, because it produces massive amounts of power in a very compact and efficient size.
So it fits in any and everything.

Any Japanese or German equivalent would long since have a blower, weigh twice as much, be twice as large physically and be half as fuel-efficient.

They'd have to have a solid front axle just to counteract the braking dive in such a nose-heavy car.]]>Jan 5th 2007 11:26AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Examples are the Boss 302 from ford, which is based on the Windsor smallblock engine, and the Cammer from Ford, which is based on the 4.6ltr modular engine. ]]>Jan 5th 2007 11:34AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/Jan 5th 2007 11:50AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/So it fits in any and everything.

Any Japanese or German equivalent would long since have a blower, weigh twice as much, be twice as large physically and be half as fuel-efficient."

Explain to me how audi's 4.2l engine, made of aluminium, and producing 420hp is not compact, efficent, and at naturally aspirated "uses a blower" and weighs "twice as much" given it produces more horse power then the 6l engine found in the corvette (producing 20 less horsepower)? TIA.]]>Jan 5th 2007 11:53AMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Audi's 4.2l v8 puts out 420hp. aluminum
Chevy's LS2 v8 (as seen in the vette) needs 6l to put out 400hp.
Ford's 4.6l v8 used in the mustang puts out 324hp in hertz trim
Chrysler's 5.7l v8 used in the 300 puts out 340hp
... so clearly audi's trailing there

Audi's 3.2l v6 puts out 255hp
Ford's 4.0l v6 (as seen in the mustang) puts out 210hp
Chrysler's 3.5l v6 (as seen in the 300) puts out 250hp
Chevy's 3.5l v6 (as seen in the monte carlo) puts out 211 hp)


and the really fun one:
Audi's 2.0l i4 puts out 200hp
Chevy's 2.4l 'high output' puts out 173hp,supercharged it puts out 205hp
Chrysler's 2.4l puts out 173hp,
Ford's 2.3l puts out 160hp

So honestly i'm not sure where you're coming from.

a few cars who currently have access to audi engines in what would be a 'crate' form:

Spyker (currently using Audi engines in all cars)

Gumpert Apollo using a bi turbo version of audi's 4.2l producing 650hp, 623 ft lbs torque

there are others, the list is just limited at current, i suspect that would change shortly were audi to begin supplying engines, oh and sorry about comparing audi's cars using their engines to american automaker's cars using their engines, i don't know of a convenient 'crate engine' database.]]>Jan 5th 2007 12:18PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Enough of this gas hungry v8 crap for the S models. I want the turbos.

Love my 3.2FSI though]]>Jan 5th 2007 12:23PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Posted at 10:31AM on Jan 5th 2007 by Dan"


Dan what are you trying to say with your post? Audi had a V8 powerplant in 1991 with only 4.2 Liters at 276 HP and 295 ft-lbs. The Japanese barely introduced the 5-6cyl engines at that time.

- Audi V8 hp to displacement ratio: 65.7HP/Liter

- '93 Ford Mustang Cobra 235HP and 280 ft-lbs at 4.94 Liters. 47.6HP/Liter

- GM 350 CID max power 370HP at 5.7 Liters = 64.9HP/Liter....thats the 2002 engine]]>Jan 5th 2007 12:26PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/
Actually GM sells nearly every engine they makes as a crate motor, 6 cylinders and 4 cylinders included.

People here are confusing size with displacement. What Dan was referring to is that American small blocks have a smaller size, even when they have a larger displacement. They are compact in nature and often weigh less because the have less moving parts than an overhead cam V engine. A Chevy 350 will fit in an engine compartment where some 4 cylinders will not. Its often less expensive than a 4 banger too.

The overhead cam V-6 and V-8 engines don't offer much for all the moving parts required. In fact, in many applications, especially where low-end torque is needed, they are inferior.

The push-rod Vs. OHC debate goes on here way too much. Fact is neither one is better than the other, they are just different.
]]>Jan 5th 2007 12:38PMhttp://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/http://www.autoblog.com/2007/01/05/should-audi-develop-a-crate-engine/…Oh and by the way. The horsepower per literof displacement comparisons are completely useless.

Often the larger displacement engine gets better gas mileage, puts out more power, has less moving parts and weighs less. If you want to compare power, per unit of gas burned, or some other factor, fine, but the displacement is pretty irrelevant.
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That 2.3ltr "ford" engine is making 270hp in the mazdaspeed 6. You compared a turbo Audi to a normally aspirated Ford. tsk tsk.

oh, and there are 1100hp/900ft 5.4 Ford GT's Running around with completely stock bottom ends. not a bad "Truck" engine.

Ford's 3.7ltr v6 is putting out a respectable 262hp.

I don't even want to get into the 1000hp+ ford and chevy crate motors running on drag strips as the list is too great to list.

I don't wanna argue because it's stupid, but your list is crap. nothing more than a pissing match.



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--chuck

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