• Oct 13, 2006
When we first reported on the Moller M400 Skycar auction a couple of weeks ago, we speculated that you would need a pilot's license in addition to the $4 million reserve price. Well, the flying car has finally reached the pages of eBay and we have more of the specifics for you. As many of us suspected, the Skycar "is suitable for test and evaluation only and is not certified for use by the Federal Aviation Authority nor as a licensed road vehicle." So you are basically bidding to finance future work and the right to own a very large remote control plane. But the Skycar is a real vehicle. Road and flight tests have been going on since September 2001, and this test vehicle has flown over a dozen times at the Moller International facilities in Davis, California.

Powered by eight air-cooled Rotapower rotary engines, this prototype M400 Skycar is capable of generating approximately 2,000 pounds of vertical thrust. It currently runs on methanol, but can also be operated on regular unleaded pump gas. And remember when we said this was essentially an RC plane? The "pilot" uses a remote control to "fly" the vehicle, which uses a sophisticated computer and fly-by-wire system to control altitude and orientation. Commands are fed through a 300-ft umbilical cable attached to the aircraft. Up until now, it has only been flown at 40 ft however.

So if you are still interested, here's a summary of the bid process. It's a "Private Auction" hosted by eBay. You need to be pre-approved prior to posting a bid. And here's a big caveat: sale of the Skycar prototype is subject to approval under ITAR. That is the International Traffic in Arms Regulations. Moller believes the Skycar to be a Category VIII aircraft, which makes it subject to military restrictions as well. Therefore, if you are the winning bidder, you need to prove you are who you say you are, and after a background check, Moller International will obtain the required permits and legal authorization to transfer ownership of the Skycar over to you. Still with us? Well, there is also a warning that customs, shipping and import fees could run you another 25 grand. But Moller will reimburse you with valid receipts. Sounds like the perfect holiday treat for the person who has everything. Bidding is currently at $2,000,001 with about six days left to go.

[Source: Moller]


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      • 8 Years Ago
      This thing is flying with the old 530 cc single rotor engines, pretty much straight out of the 1907's OMC snowmobile. It also only carries 8 gal of gas, and no pilot. Thats 6 min of hover, minus warmup time for the engines. Oh, and there's no true redundancy, two computers and sensor sets doesn't do it. There are no redundant throttle actuators, just for starters. Also, none of the electronics are real man-rated stuff. This is the worlds longest running vaporware company. See here for yourselves what they were saying in 1974.
      http://downside.com/scams/moller/index.html
      • 8 Years Ago
      Hey, anybody go to the stockholders meeting? I am curious what excuse they gave this year, and did they ask for more money?
      • 8 Years Ago
      Jay Leno should look into this.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Huh? Do you know what working, approved aircraft you can get for $4M?!?!? I'd get me a used private jet and call it a day...
      • 8 Years Ago
      I wrote a short report on this flying car back in elementary school. I distinctly remember writing that this car will be available by 1999. I was really excited, but then again, I was probably only 10 years old at the time.

      Now, when the heck can I get a hover conversion for my DeLorean? :)
      • 8 Years Ago
      Right from the get go, I knew this thing will never..hmmm..take off.

      A) A flying car = A flying car bomb. The government will never ok it.
      B) People are already screaming for help when they only have to pay $3 a gallon. You will be lucky if you get 1 mile to a gallon on this thing.
      c) This a lawsuit waiting to happen in America, where you can sue a piece of 5hit because it is brown.

      • 8 Years Ago
      Why sell the prototype and not go into productions if it works... oh right... it doesn't.

      I would LOVE one of these but Moller hasn't actually proven that it works EVER!
      • 7 Years Ago
      I think this guy is in trouble-hes trying to rent his building out,heck he only charges 40 grand a month,at least thats what he was charging Moller International-YES - he rented it to his OWN COMPANY and wreeked huge profits,he also rented the crane to the company as well, but then sold it to "the company" for the same amount he paid for it after 10 years of rent! at $400 a month-its all a scam. Now he has gone back to the 200X-I think this is a ploy just to get more money-it will never fly again, all the carbs and control systems have been removed and dismanteled-Don't believe a WORD!
      • 7 Years Ago
      Yep- Worked there for years, was promissed retirement etc. The only people gaining from this are him and his kids-they just take the investment money and spend as they please-its all a scam, but they do use some of the money to travel and ship the non-functional model to shows to get more investment though.The SEC should have closed him up instead of just fining him. Even his own daughter is saying she is in school for an MBA (on there web site)-what a joke, but she can get a healthy salery for it-from all the investors it seems!
      • 7 Years Ago
      The family name of which you represent correspondes with a name that is a disgrace upon of what my close friend represented. Looking in the mirror I hope you force a smile that you understand was built upon lies, distrust, failure, and misleadership. From a young age some people looked up to you, in hope for success and the best with your own invested business; but later we learned how the business was really ran. Obtaining a business for more than 20 years we would hope that you would have achieved respect for your most intellegant and hardworking employees. For your future standings I hope you achieve your personal ratings, wishing you obtain "your" personal goals, and in the way you believe is the right way, you follow your own business desires. Good luck, but... to let you know...you are way too selfish to run any type of business for any goal of which you hope to achieve in a reality where people will work for your "so called" type of undesirable and unabtable standards for the unrespected hope of an employer. I wish you success MOLLER, but when you do succed, if you ever do, repay the persons of whom which sacrificed their time and money for your company, to please your unexplanable standards. MOLLER INTERNATIONAL was a success from men who would never independantly stand beside a team they once called MOLLER INTERNATIONAL. Good luck to them both.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Yep I liked the Q&A too on the ebay (not) auction, I almost peed myself. I do believe the people have become enlightened about the whole thing-its all about getting moooore money and nothing else. Hey how long does it take to get an MBA anyway? Thats why it became a JOKE.
      • 8 Years Ago
      Saw this thing in Popular Mechanics around '90. I never would have guessed that you'd be able to buy a flight in a spaceship before this thing became viable.
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